[心得] 鑄鐵鍋STAUB含鉛,LC含鎘問題

作者: IamMsn (Alice)   2014-10-24 03:21:58
鑄鐵鍋還是能用啦! 不然早就全球禁賣了~~~
美國加州對食品產品檢驗的標準,遠遠高於歐盟及美國 FDA。
如果你非常龜毛,「購買前」來關心一下高價鑄鐵鍋含鉛含鎘問題:
(一) 2006 訴訟:
MATEEL ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE FOUNDATION 為了公益告 STAUB 及其零售商,
販售有致癌風險的含鉛廚具(上蓋把手含鉛),結論就是不合加州標準的產品都需警示。
認真魔人請進,訴訟原文:
http://oag.ca.gov/system/files/prop65/settlements/2006-00543S840.pdf
(二)目前不符合加州標準的商品應有下列標示:
California Proposition 65 Warning
This product contains brass, which includes a very small amount of lead, a
chemical known to the state of California to cause cancer or birth defects,
or other reproductive harm.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?ie=UTF8&nodeId=3234041
(三)讓我們看看目前市面上的警示:
Staub® Black Mini Round Cocotte @ Sur La Table Store
看來還是沒有「全數」依嚴格的加州標準重生產,都 6 年拉!
http://www.surlatable.com/product/PRO-161414/Staub+Black+Mini+Round+Cocotte
Staub® Black Mini Round Cocotte @ Williams Sonama Store
相同的產品在另一家店卻沒有警示,都賣 6 年是有可能為改善後的新貨嗎(?)
http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/staub-mini-round-cocotte-set/
參見文末 [註]===>>這是我還感到些許疑惑的部分
Amazon 警示有夠難找,在 Product Details 第五行!
http://www.amazon.com/Staub-Quart-Round-Cocotte-Black/dp/B000AXQADI
===以上是確定的官方資訊,以下網友 2008 討論(不一定為事實)===
blondelle 網友的文字重點:
加州檢驗標準超嚴,高過歐盟美國 FDA,
一般檢驗標準的10 倍以下的含量才能符合加州標準。
LC 沒鉛但有使用鎘來為鍋身外層彩色塗裝增色。
STAUB「 把手有鉛」&「外層彩色塗裝有鎘」 (粗略看訴訟原文好像只有寫把手含鉛),
2008的討論說將在六個月內生產合於加州標準的產品。
The big difference is that Le Creuset cookware complies with the California
Proposition 65 which is the most rigid standard in the world for these
substances. Staub cookware does not, and has that warning on just about all
it's cookware on Amazon. Here is the full answer from their website:
Q: Is Le Creuset lead and cadmium free(無鉛無鎘)?
A: Cadmium and lead are two elements under strict control in the cookware
industry. Our position today for the entire production process is to be in
compliance with California Proposal 65 which is the most rigid standard in
the world for these elements (approx. 10 times lower than "acceptable"
limits).
( LC 無鉛,鍋身外層彩色塗裝有鎘 )
Lead is NOT used in our recipes and for cadmium a special anti-acid
enamel fritt is used which will not release the cadmium pigment during
cooking. Cadmium is used for coloration purposes in achieving bright exterior
colors such as Flame and Cherry. The interior enamel which makes contact with
food is either sand, white, or black.
( STAUB 把手有鉛,鍋身外層彩色塗裝有鎘 )
Staub does have lead in it's brass handles and in their enamels.
They will be reformulated in about 6 months I was told to comply with
Proposition 65. If I would have know that I wouldn't have bought them.
ALL the colors have the proposition 65 warning on the product page on Amazon,
not just the blue. Staub's yellows, reds and oranges also contain cadmium.
這討論串有蠻多資訊 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/469551
((((((((( 購買時特別注意該款有沒 Warning 。))))))))))
花大錢買有「微乎其微致癌可能成分」的鍋子來用??
對一個 $150~400鎂的鍋的期待可不只如此歐~~
[註]
Williams Sonoma 同款雖沒標 Warning,但 FAQ 裡確實有在關注
http://www.williams-sonoma.com/customer-service/faq.html
因此官網沒標的可能就真的符合加州標準歐!(不然抓到被告要賠錢)
不過同款 Amazon 與其他網站交叉比對下常常一個有標一個沒標咧!
下面提到的 Riedel 酒杯含鉛,我一向拒用,因為酒杯是直接接觸酸性液體。
至於鍋子外面的成分(鍋身外層彩色塗裝有鎘 把手含鉛),
致癌影響比起酒杯小很多~~應該啦!!!
What is California Proposition 65, and how does it apply to the items you sell?
All of our dinnerware, glassware and other items used for serving food are
tested to ensure that they meet FDA and California Proposition 65
requirements for lead and cadmium.
Like most fine porcelain dinnerware and crystal glasses, some of our Pickard
dinnerware, Raynaud dinnerware, Riedel glassware and Waterford stemware are
made using lead. In accordance with Proposition 65, we issue the following
warning to our California customers: "Use of this product will expose you to
lead and/or cadmium, chemicals known to the State of California to cause
birth defects or other reproductive harm."
In accordance with Proposition 65, when a ceramic glaze meets FDA standards
but fails to meet the standards of Proposition 65, we issue the following
warning to our California customers: "The materials used as colored
decorations on the exterior of this product contain lead, a chemical known to
the State of California to cause birth defects or other reproductive harm."
If the interior or pouring lip of a serving vessel is finished with a glaze
that contains lead, we issue the following warning: "Use of this product will
expose you to lead and/or cadmium, chemicals known to the State of California
to cause birth defects or other reproductive harm."
作者: happyennovy (喵)   2014-10-24 07:37:00
剛去查了美國的 stuab 網站, 他們網站已經更新為內層鍅瑯Cadmium Free / Lead Free / PFOA Free / PTFEfree 了, 害我擔心了一下, 我的鍋全部都是 Staub 的不過是說我去年去德國也是看到 Staub 在販售, 通過歐盟的標準應該還算安全吧?補充一下, 相關的討論和訴訟好像2008就開始了, staub在2009下半年就更新他們的網頁了
作者: tatsumi (天天開心身體健康)   2014-10-24 09:12:00
天啊.....如果有這樣的疑慮 當年我也不會買
作者: vicario837 (維嘉里歐)   2014-10-24 09:33:00
這些鍋子都不是在加州做的 也不是只在加州賣 廠商不積極作為也看得出來 只能說如果擔心 某些顏色不要買雖然也不會直接碰觸到食物
作者: happyennovy (喵)   2014-10-24 09:44:00
嗯嗯, 謝謝你提出問題, 的確通路有當年沒賣完的庫存我自己是比起美國 FDA和加州政府, 更相信歐盟的標準所以會繼續使用抱歉, 我沒講清楚, 我是看其他論壇, 有人質疑2008前的琺瑯塗層也有問題, 我自己是相信歐盟的標準至於如果是外面塗層我就完全不擔心... 自己學化學的化學鍵要打斷沒那麼簡單XD我還在找有沒有2008前歐洲的相關討論來看, 這兩個牌子的鍋子在歐洲賣那麼久了, 有問題應該在歐洲被告到倒了... 如果要安全應該醫用級不鏽鋼鍋最安全吧...
作者: sandyQQ (-)   2014-10-24 10:58:00
我用LC 都是外層含鎘 不曉得進烤箱會不會有影響 常烤蛋糕
作者: happyennovy (喵)   2014-10-24 11:06:00
法國論壇有人說他兩個牌子都有寄信問琺瑯是否含鎘和鉛, 但是都沒回應... 如果有看到新的討論再PO上來
作者: ooQss (吃喝拉撒~)   2014-10-24 11:51:00
難得的好文,感謝!
作者: chataulait (牛奶貓)   2014-10-24 12:40:00
推!謝謝整理資訊!這篇的資料很完整,比自己慢慢追零碎的英文新聞還清楚得多
作者: kruz (路人)   2014-10-24 13:11:00
一堆東西都有prop65 warning..
作者: SuperSheepy (sheep)   2014-10-24 13:32:00
美國跟歐洲標準不同 不能說比較相信哪個吧 美國沒有禁用的一些食物色素(致癌物質)歐盟都先禁用了 差別在此
作者: happyennovy (喵)   2014-10-24 13:38:00
看個人想法, 歐盟還禁了很多添加物, 然後對抗生素的標準比美國嚴格很多, 所以美國肉類要輸往歐洲遇到很大的困難, 大家自由心證
作者: cloudstr (ハートレス)   2014-10-24 20:45:00
看來問題是出在琺瑯吧 還好我的荷蘭鍋沒事
作者: malisse74 (沙漠中的冰淇淋)   2014-10-24 22:27:00
文裡面寫的不是琺瑯吧 是外面的彩色塗裝 別嚇人
作者: NAHAy (NAHAy)   2014-10-25 00:27:00
作者: SURREALTMR (neil)   2014-10-25 08:02:00
推原PO.不知有沒有第三品牌選擇.這二牌幾乎佔了全部
作者: kinny79912 (亞連沃克)   2014-10-25 14:44:00
我有兩個lc有小瑕疵 鍋底染到一點點 比米粒還小的外面 彩色琺瑯的顏色不就悲劇了!?
作者: cloudstr (ハートレス)   2014-10-25 20:45:00
外面塗層不就是琺瑯?
作者: kinny79912 (亞連沃克)   2014-10-25 21:49:00
我是鍋內的黑塗層染到外面的橘塗層
作者: march315 (lincecum rocks)   2014-10-28 18:20:00
加州標準隨便看看就好。幾乎什麼東西在加州都有毒....

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