Re: [請問] 為何"stein"有時唸"斯坦"有時唸"史汀"?

作者: ostracize (bucolic)   2024-01-07 16:32:49
How to Pronounce Jeffrey Epstein (Real Life Examples!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxjG9N0yh-8
Jeffrey Edward Epstein (EP-steen; January 20, 1953 – August
10, 2019) was an American financier and sex offender.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein
名從主人,所以不同人的姓雖然拼字相同,讀音也不同。
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/epstein
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Epstein
Both Epstein and Einstein are German -Jewish names based on the German word
for stone (Stein, pronounced shtine).
Many Jews in the USA - and other countries of the diaspora- came from
countries in Eastern Europe where they spoke Yiddish, a language based on a
German dialect. In Yiddish, — Stein is pronounced closer to steen and it is
this pronunciation which is largely used for names with the -ei diphthong.
The Epstein name and pronunciation has presumably come through the Eastern
European/ Yiddish route (so epp-steen)
On the other hand, Albert Einstein, coming from a middle class German Jewish
family, would have spoken German as a mother tongue and would most likely
have pronounced the name according to standard German pronunciation
(something like ine-shtine). As the sht- combination is not known in English,
the pronunciation became corrupted (in the English speaking world) to
ine-stine.
https://reurl.cc/97GgWX
作者: MrTaxes (得粥加湯)   2024-01-07 18:48:00
原來竟然有如此淵源,感謝資訊提供....
作者: chamber (年年有餘)   2024-01-07 21:27:00
另一個考慮的因素是名字使用者是不是移民第一代仍受母語影響,第二三代以後就會用美語發音方式為多。
作者: jollybighead (快樂的大頭)   2024-01-07 23:06:00
名字通常是父母給的,該怎麼念自然是看父母怎麼發音
作者: chamber (年年有餘)   2024-01-07 23:22:00
哈哈 首先一般人不知道取名的爸媽怎麼念,也不會去查證,再來名字使用者可能有非常現實的考量,例如不想一直糾正寧願妥協、或者希望聽起來像英文以利融入移民社會。這也反應在很多漢人姓氏變成英文後的唸法都非常不一樣。
作者: MrTaxes (得粥加湯)   2024-01-07 23:47:00
想到之前那位批評課綱的北一女國文老師-區桂芝很多人看到她的姓"區"都直接念"屈",但其實念"歐"~
作者: jollybighead (快樂的大頭)   2024-01-07 23:51:00
受母語影響不就看爸媽怎麼發音??然後小孩講自己的名字就是從父母發音而來??並不用查證...
作者: TokiwaKurumi (常磐胡桃)   2024-01-07 23:52:00
語言是會改變的不同地區有不同發音很正常
作者: jollybighead (快樂的大頭)   2024-01-07 23:55:00
所以移民第二代才會變成美語發音,不就如此??
作者: Kukuxumusu (Kukuxumusu)   2024-01-08 00:39:00
語言會改變啊 那天才在reddit討論美國加拿大澳洲 有很多或歐洲(甚至中東)的地名被移植過去 但現在發音都大變
作者: chamber (年年有餘)   2024-01-08 14:48:00
我認識的移民姓名是非常多元唸法的,對家人,台灣同胞,公司白人同事可以不同唸法。誰管爸媽XD
作者: Kazamatsuri (專業領隊)   2024-01-08 20:59:00
就名從主人原則,歐美多半歡迎你直接問他名字怎麼唸自己亂唸唸錯是很不禮貌的,甚至有冒犯的意思 XD
作者: MEOWWW (meow)   2024-01-08 21:59:00
好文

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