[新聞] Oculus官司敗訴 賠償ZeniMax五億美金

作者: kira925 (1 2 3 4 疾風炭)   2017-02-02 15:40:42
來源: http://www.polygon.com/2017/2/1/14474198/oculus-lawsuit-verdict
本文:
Oculus lawsuit ends with half billion dollar judgment awarded to ZeniMax
A Dallas, Texas jury today awarded half a billion dollars to ZeniMax after
finding that Oculus co-founder Palmer Luckey, and by extension Oculus, failed
to comply with a non-disclosure agreement he signed.
今日達拉斯的法庭宣判 Palmer Luckey 與他創立的公司 Oculus 必須賠償 ZeniMax
5億美金 緣由是 Palmer Luckey 當初確實違反了與 ZeniMax 的 NDA 條款
In awarding ZeniMax $500 million, the jury also said that Oculus did not
misappropriate trade secrets as contended by ZeniMax.
但同時 庭上也認定了 Oculus 並沒有如 ZeniMax 宣稱的竊取了商業機密
Of the $500 million, Oculus is paying out $200 million for breaking the NDA
and $50 million for copyright infringement. Oculus and Luckey each have to
pay $50 million for false designation. And Iribe has to pay $150 million for
the same, final count.
<錢是怎麼攤就不翻譯了>
Reached for comment shortly after the verdict, Oculus said they will be
appealing, but that they look forward to eventually putting the case behind
them.
Oculus 表示將會上訴 但他們的期望是可以將這件事情拋在腦後
“The heart of this case was about whether Oculus stole ZeniMax's trade
secrets, and the jury found decisively in our favor,” an Oculus spokesperson
told Polygon. “We're obviously disappointed by a few other aspects of
today's verdict, but we are undeterred. Oculus products are built with Oculus
technology. Our commitment to the long-term success of VR remains the same,
and the entire team will continue the work they've done since day one –
developing VR technology that will transform the way people interact and
communicate. “
"我們認為今天的判決所述符合了我們的預期" Oculus 的代表這樣表示
"我們對於今天判決的部分觀點並不認同,但是挫折不會停止我們的腳步。
Oculus 的產品是由 Oculus 的科技所構築,我們將會持續發展VR科技"
ZeniMax tells Polygon that in light of the decision, it may seek an
injunction to stop the sale of Oculus Rift headsets, at least temporarily.
ZeniMax 則告訴了我們 他們可能會尋求禁售 Oculus Rift
至少是暫時性的禁售
Robert Altman, ZeniMax’s Chairman and CEO, added that “technology is the
foundation of our business and we consider the theft of our intellectual
property to be a serious matter. We appreciate the jury’s finding against
the defendants, and the award of half a billion dollars in damages for those
serious violations.”
ZeniMax 的CEO表示 "科技是我們公司的基石,我們認為竊取我們的智財是
不可輕忽的事情 我們感謝庭上否定了辯方的判決以及給予我們五億元的賠償"
<以下略 就是介紹官司的前因了>
心得:
所以經過兩年的準備與最近的宣判 Oculus 最終還是在官司中敗訴
雖然說目前還未確定到底事態會不會發展到 Oculus 禁售
但確定的是這對 Oculus 陣營又是一記沉重的悶棍
===順帶附上HackerNews有人整理的時序===
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13545796
If the original complaint is to be believed(1) - which Juror's found credible
-the course of events, tldr was something like this:
- Zenimax bought ID software for >$100m(1) on June 24, 2009.
- Carmack signed up with Zenimax for an earn-out / golden-handcuffs agreement
that ended in June of 2013.
- Carmack was enthralled with VR.
- Carmack found Palmer via an internet forum, reached out to get a rift to
try.
- Carmack tinkered with the Rift, adding sensors, building calibration, etc.
while on the clock / using hardware from zenimax.
- Carmack brought a prototype of the Rift working on Doom 3 to E3 with him
providing Oculus with their early press.
- Zenimax realized the extent to which Carmack was enabling Oculus and worked
to negotiate equity with Brendan Iribe.
- Oculus sent Zenimax a proposal to discuss a partnership Sept 21, 2012 but
never followed up / followed through.
- Carmack quit Zenimax the day his contract was up in June 2013, joined
Oculus as CTO a few months later and took his 5 best guys with him.
- FB bought Oculus March 2014, Zenmix got pissed and sued.
作者: ashinet (米克)   2017-02-02 16:55:00
禁售影響滿大的
作者: zebb   2017-02-02 17:03:00
所以是因為違反NDA,他離職太慢了不過最後一句的pissed或許可以改為excited(養肥了可以宰了)
作者: kira925 (1 2 3 4 疾風炭)   2017-02-02 17:46:00
NDA是Palmar Luckey不是John Carmack另外一個被罰的人 Brendan Iribe與洩密案有比較直接關聯目前看到的分析是 他應該是有經手John Carmack的東西所以才被罰了150Million
作者: Brightheat (QQ)   2017-02-02 17:56:00
哈哈哈 一如以往的垃圾
作者: william12tw   2017-02-02 20:40:00
作者: Kamikiri (☒☒)   2017-02-03 07:19:00
OCULUS真的是.....各種出師不順
作者: Brightheat (QQ)   2017-02-03 09:17:00
Pala
作者: iceyeman (Xen)   2017-02-03 09:44:00
這公司從上到下真不嚴謹...
作者: kira925 (1 2 3 4 疾風炭)   2017-02-03 11:16:00
新創企業不嚴謹很正常 不過被ZeniMax坑這麼大也滿慘的
作者: Brown1010 (0W0)   2017-02-03 20:54:00
還是希望他能好好發展
作者: Brightheat (QQ)   2017-02-03 21:10:00
希望它快倒掉 沒技術沒道德的垃圾公司
作者: hygen (海波)   2017-02-04 13:21:00
不樂見這種發展,但htc vive會一支獨秀嗎?阿,還有PSVR
作者: yu00928 (黑皮)   2017-02-04 16:17:00
Facebook很多錢可以燒吧
作者: iceyeman (Xen)   2017-02-04 16:43:00
惡靈古堡7 贏惹~~~
作者: Kamikiri (☒☒)   2017-02-05 03:24:00
但是PSVR在PC上沒啥競爭力
作者: hygen (海波)   2017-02-05 13:21:00
PSVR贏在比較Cheap
作者: mikevada (vada)   2017-02-06 09:13:00
不同檔次的東西吧,PSVR除了遊戲還有什麼?
作者: kira925 (1 2 3 4 疾風炭)   2017-02-06 09:14:00
有遊戲很重要 可是Sony資源回收PS Move滿愚蠢的...
作者: zardbz (呱呱包)   2017-02-09 17:38:00
HTC絕對是挑戰最大的,背後沒金雞母,還每季虧損而且現在有一定規模的不管品牌還代工廠都跳下去搞VR如VIVE稍微調整合作策略,HTC就會面臨被取代的風險
作者: mikevada (vada)   2017-02-10 12:31:00
所以要建立自己的生態系和平台,只有硬體是沒用的光做硬體的確門檻不高,但要建立生態系就難了htc現在有和很多大的平台戰略合作,這也不是一般的廠家能做到的總而言之,希望這次紅姨再看對一此,不然就真的gg了
作者: kuma660224 (kuma660224)   2017-02-11 01:56:00
Htc灑了很多機器給開發者不過成效很難出來。VR先天問題不少。即使O家或Steam也沒真正搞出能持續獲利軟體生態大家都在嘗試錯誤,希望灑出去能賭中某殺手級應用搞不好最後贏的不是目前的廠商也說不定。就像智慧手持搞很多年,直到蘋果亂入才起飛

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