https://x.com/Realrclark25/status/1935869335521648729
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https://youtu.be/LOCH5Egv3Bw?&t=87
在podcast上，前NFL球星 Ryan Clark回應LeBron的戒指文化
完整逐字稿
LeBron James doesn't have a problem with ring culture. He has a problem with
more rings culture. Because LeBron has curated his career around ring
culture. Because if he didn't, LeBron James never goes to South Beach. He
went to South Beach because he understood that as individually dominant as he
was, he was nothing without those rings. And what's funny also too about
LeBron is the fact that he's talking about the accumulation of something when
that's the exact argument that all of his fans, all of the people that say he
is the greatest, use. His accumulation of points over a certain amount of
time, accumulation of assists, accumulation of rebounds.
LeBron並不是對「戒指文化」有意見，他有意見的是「更多戒指」的文化。因為 LeBron
的職業生涯就是圍繞著「戒指文化」來打造的。如果不是這樣，他根本不會去熱火隊。
他去邁阿密，因為他知道，儘管他的個人能力再強，但沒有那些冠軍戒，他什麼也不是。
有趣的是，LeBron現在竟然在談論「累積」，而這正是他所有粉絲、所有說他是GOAT的人
，最常拿來用的論點：他累積的得分、助攻、籃板等等
The reason he's pointing out the more rings culture is because he hasn't
accumulated more rings than the person that he's chasing. And so if I can get
out and debunk the fact that it's about how many rings you get as long as you
have one, or if I can get out and debunk the fact that we're not having a
conversation about how much you elevated your team in the most important
moment, just about how good you were, right? Because when you bring up Barry
Bonds, it's like, let's not think about whether or not he won a championship.
Let's say he was the greatest ever, which all baseball players agree to,
right? Like he brought up Dan Marino. Yeah, we know Dan Marino could spin it,
but Dan Marino never lifted his team to a championship, so we speak about him
differently than we talk about Tom Brady.
他會質疑「多戒指文化」，其實就是因為他的戒指比不過他心中那個對手。
所以，如果他能讓大家相信：只要有一枚冠軍戒指就夠了，重點不是拿了幾枚；
或者他能讓大家接受，我們根本不需要討論一個人在關鍵時刻怎麼帶起整支球隊，
而只看他個人打得有多強，這樣他就能掌握話語權，對吧？
因為你一講到 Barry Bonds，大家就會說，「先別管他有沒有拿過冠軍，反正他就是史上
最強」，而這也是所有棒球員都同意的說法，對吧？
再看他提到 Dan Marino，對啦，我們都知道 Marino 傳球超猛，但問題是他從來沒把球
隊帶上冠軍，所以我們在討論他時的語氣，就會跟討論 Tom Brady 的時候不太一樣。
And let's not forget that part of greatness is showing up in the most
important moments. The most important moments are playoffs and championships.
And that is the reason that you get to be, whether it's in the top five or a
top three or a top two, or you get to be the GOAT, is because in the most
important moment, as individually great as you were, you were that great or
better when it counted most.
別忘了，偉大的一部分就是在最重要的時刻挺身而出。最重要的時刻就是季後賽和總冠軍
賽。只有在這種時候，你還能打得跟平常一樣好、甚至更好，你才有資格被放進 top5
、top3、top2甚至GOAT的討論中。
And so LeBron James is extremely intelligent. He knows that if now he comes
out and says, hey, it's not about how many rings you accumulate, it's about
how you played individually. Now, all of his fans, his people that say he's
the GOAT can point to those numbers as long as you don't point to the amount
of rings that somebody won because that's the conversation or argument that
he can't win.
LeBron 非常聰明。他知道如果他現在跳出來說：「嘿，這不是關於你累積了多少戒指，
而是關於你個人表現如何。」那麼，他所有的粉絲、所有說他是GOAT的球迷，就可
以指向那些個人數據，只要沒人再提起「誰拿過幾枚冠軍戒指」，因為那是LeBron無法贏
的辯論。
And I think for him, right, for him, it's hypocritical because you shaped
your career early on around winning championships because you knew
championships could make you the GOAT. You even said, when I came back 3-1
against the Warriors, that made me the GOAT because I won that championship.
Now, all of a sudden, because maybe there's a fear where you won't win
another one, championships or amount of championships don't matter.
我認為對他來說，這就是雙標。因為你早在職業生涯初期就圍繞著贏得總冠軍來塑造你的
事業，因為你知道總冠軍可以讓你成為GOAT
你甚至自己講過：「當我 3–1逆轉勇士，那才是我成為 GOAT的時刻。」
現在，突然之間，是不是因為你也擔心再也拿不到一枚戒指，
所以冠軍數量或冠軍本身就不重要了
備註
還好是在NFL 不然會被皇上...

哪怕姆迷也沒辦法反駁姆斯去熱火就是為了戒指而且就算有戒指就好 那也無法解釋為什麼姆斯後續又轉隊

好粗暴

就真的全世界都知道他想幹嘛XD

史上最可笑的山羌

確實

大家都知道的真相XD

精闢分析 邏輯正確

母迷:又一個批踢踢酸民

笑死

邏輯大師？？

太粗暴了

被大家看破手腳 只是NBA華晨宇走旁門左道 耍盡心機與小聰明 當大家都是姆咪會被他唬弄嗎

太粗暴了XD

都什麼人會信他挺他 同溫層根本邪教根本不是只有喬比他強 還有至少十幾位都在他之前

這咖根本不是GOAT，數據好看而已

NBA華晨宇 炒作翻車後 只有被大家噓爆的份

舉Bonds是因為他是黑人吧

有哪個領域GOAT像跳樑小丑一樣發言 讓他當GOAT有辱籃球門面

有料

再怎麼有意見 還是坐二望一 傻了

粗暴的言論 大可不必

史上唯一巔峰期抱腿，聯盟即戰力1、2、4抱一團好意思整天幻想自己是GOAT，真的有夠好笑的

目前都是其他領域的球員出來噴 可見山羌集團已經完全掌控NBA媒體輿論 真可怕坐二十望一吧

太粗暴惹！

那投票還有個問題是選項扣掉MJ的話,那些MJ票不一定是按照目前比例給後面順位的所以扣掉MJ後,LBJ得票比例可能更高,也可能更低

就NBA華晨宇呀 粉絲也雷同坐20吹噓成坐2粉絲還敢去出征王傑 跟姆咪喬黑一樣一個冠軍都沒有的時候 就已經稱King跟華晨宇一樣 沒有一首成名曲 也稱GOAT

太中肯了..完全道破姆斯的想法

詹姆羌之心

確實

詹酸不如姆斯 姆咪喬酸就比MJ強嗎

姆斯開趴還特地牽真的山羊 他超級想要的

大家只是說實話就被打成詹酸 再怎樣還是給姆斯前20反觀姆咪說MJ是DDR DDR是排第幾名？姆咪酸MJ才是各種浮誇與謊言

姆咪不是都說MJ在現代無法生存嗎

別人說實話被姆咪冠上詹酸 姆咪自己才是浮誇無底線越看越覺得NBA華晨宇超貼合姆斯與姆咪的形象

司馬詹之心

說什麼大實話

路人皆知不是？