[爆卦] 曹長青FB說王丹涉嫌兒童色情

作者: saniblue (sanity)   2015-01-25 13:14:51
原文出處:
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=848287268569545&id=218812861516992
縮網址:http://0rz.tw/91ttM
曹長青:王丹涉嫌「兒童色情」FBI存檔
對王丹是否是同性戀的問題,他自己當然有權保持沉默。但作為公眾人物,對媒體報導他
出入同性戀場所等,他不僅矢口否認,甚至揚言要起訴報導他是同性戀的媒體,這就等於
說,王丹否認自己是同性戀。王丹表示,那家媒體負責人最後向他「道歉」。但他自己對
媒體、對大眾撒了那麼多謊,卻絕無一句道歉。而且,一個本應是為同性戀權益呼籲的人
,這麼個否定法,不知同性戀團體怎麼看。
但不管怎麼說,他是不是同性戀,不是問題,但如果涉嫌戀童,那可就一定是問題了。我
在《五錯俱全的王丹》一文裡曾提到,王丹在哈佛讀書期間,他的美國鄰居就有反映,王
丹和太多男孩子交往,如果不當接觸未成年男孩的話,是會犯罪的,需要長輩管教。在台
灣清華大學,也有老師意識到他周圍總有一些年輕男孩。學校老師們還以為,王丹是因為
安全原因,需要有一幫男孩子保護。當被告知王丹的美國鄰居的擔憂時,清大老師才意識
到,原來還有這種「思路」。
幾個月前前,有人給我提供了一篇和這種思路相吻合的有關王丹的英文文章(附在本文後
),並告知,有一個外人不懂的世界——成年男人裝小孩,逗小狗小貓,為的是吸引小孩
,那是「戀童癖」表現的一種。
這篇英文文章的大致內容是,王丹離開哈佛後,把他的一些私人物品寄存在一個倉庫裡,
但由於他的代理人(也就是哈佛大學東亞所那個幫王丹寫英文作業的南希女士)沒有及時
繳費,他的東西被清倉拍賣,結果被發現其中有「裸體男孩照片」,最後那些男孩裸照都
被美國FBI高價收回。這件事情的過程恰好被一個喜歡購買拍賣品的美國人撞見,所以他
寫出了這個過程。從該文語調來看,他顯然對中國天安門學生領袖私藏兒童裸照的行為很
厭惡、很不滿,所以他的文章標題是(No Child Porn Here), 意是是:別在這裡搞兒童
色情。
幾年前我從美國的一個電視新聞報導中得知:私藏兒童的裸體照片是犯法的,從網上下載
兒童裸體照片到自己的計算機裡也犯法,如果發送傳播,刑罰就更嚴重。電視片中那個尚
沒有任何侵犯兒童的行為、只是從網上下載了兒童裸照的人,直接就被警察銬走了。報導
提示,如周圍鄰居有此類問題,要向警察局報備,以保護附近的兒童。
這篇英文在我這裡已經壓了好幾個月了,一直期待王丹能像個公眾人物的樣子,誠懇地對
待批評,對他撒的一串謊言道個歉,對被指控的款項問題做個交代,那我就替他保住這個
密——起碼不從我這兒捅出去。但他不僅毫無悔意,而是更加囂張;甚者故意給騙子韓寒
背書,並再一次想靠輿論幫他要特權。既然他狂妄到對所有的批評都置之不理,那我也就
完全沒必要把這個信息幫他藏在文件夾的深層。更何況,他可能根本不把涉嫌「兒童色情
」當回事兒(連美國FBI不也只是存檔備案,並沒抓他嗎,六四光環還是相當有保護層的
),就像他的同行者,前中國民聯主席、《北京之春》主編胡平,收了中共領館一鋪子香
煙,把我嚇出一身冷汗,當成天大的事兒,但人家就像沒事人一樣,繼續瀟灑地指點民運
江山(還繼續收中領館的厚禮?)。以王丹對前面一系列事情的處理來看,他和胡平的確
是同志,活在一個外人不懂得的世界。所以,本文只是給大眾讀者看的,看看這樣的人是
否適合做role model(年輕人的樣板)。
我得到這篇文章的時候,用鏈接一下子就連到了網上的原文,但是去年底,這篇文章就從
網上神秘地消失了(受到了來自哪裡的壓力?)。
好在現在是網絡時代,凡是網上有過的東西,就像凡是在計算機打過的東西,哪怕全部刪
除掉了,在專家那裡也都是可以查到的。請看附錄的這篇文章,以及幾個月前的文章網頁
快照。我只是作為一個記者提供這個信息,至於應該怎樣看待這件事情,我就不再評論,
由讀者自己來判斷吧。
2015年1月22日於美國
附錄:
No Child Porn Here
by Alden Howes Olson
22 February 2013
This really happened. Totally no shit. I used to go to a lot of auctions, two
or three a week, sometimes four or five. One of my favorite auctions was
Acorn Auctions, run by Stan (name changed). Stan was terrific and he almost
always had interesting items, never much high end, expensive stuff, but
interesting stuff. Stuff you could either use or re-sell. I hit Acorn every
Saturday afternoon to preview as early as possible, then go home to look up
online the items I was interested in. Everything Stan sold was his. He bought
virtually all of it at storage unit auctions, way before Storage Wars got on
TV.
So one Saturday afternoon I go into the place and, because I'm always there
early, only Stan is there, no one else has been in yet. I start previewing on
the left side of the room, like usual, and immediately see that this auction
is totally different from all the others I've seen Stan hold.
The first table is full of pictures of crowds of Chinese people and some
Chinese soldiers. Hundreds of pictures. This is not a happy occasion. I pick
up one photo that shows a guy with no forehead. The cavity behind the hole is
empty, no brains, nothing inside his skull. Some blood on his face, his chin
on the street. I look at other photos that show some tanks, some people
running, some look like they're throwing rocks, some injured. The crowds are
huge, chaotic. This is no small event.
On the next table a little print-out by Stan says the items belonged to Wang
Dan, a leader of the Tienanmen Square uprising in 1989. There are what look
like old notebooks or journals. No idea what they say because I don't read
Chinese. Could be anything, but naturally you think they are journals kept as
a record of the demonstrations. It was a big deal at the time. Wang Dan was
more or less second-in-command. He was very present, very outspoken. The
Chinese government hated him. And arrested him. Put him in jail. Eventually,
he was released. Then he got jailed again. This time Bill Clinton, at a
summit meeting in China, requested that the People's Republic of China
release Dan, who would come to the U.S. In fact, he would become a graduate
student at Harvard.
I notice on the floor about a dozen boxes filled with New Yorker magazines. I
look at the address labels - all the same address. Wang Dan; c/o Nancy
Hearst; Librarian; Fairbank Center; Harvard University; Cambridge MA. I write
this down.
I continue through the rest of the room. Some stuff is normal, but more of
the items are clearly part of Wang Dan's stuff. I know it must all have come
from a storage unit. I ask Stan about it. He says he got it at a storage unit
in Somerville a few days ago.
I say thanks and leave, go home, and call the Fairbank Center. No answer. I
leave a message. I try directory assistance and find a Nancy Hearst in
Brookline and call her house. No answer. I leave a message. She calls back. I
tell her I'm not an expert, but this looks like historically significant
stuff for sale tonight in Greenfield. Is she aware that Wang Dan's stuff is
being auctioned off? No, she says, Dan has been traveling around the world
speaking out for democracy in China and it was her responsibility to pay his
storage unit rent. Which she neglected to do. So his stuff was sold to Stan
and now would be sold to anyone with enough money to win the bidding. I told
her I didn't have a lot of money, but I would be glad to buy the most
important items and get them back to Dan as long as I could get reimbursed.
She said maybe, that she would call Wang Dan, and would I please call her
back in about 10 minutes. I called back. No answer. I waited another 10
minutes and called back. No answer. I did this twice more. She wasn't picking
up.
So after an hour of trying to contact Hearst, and with the auction about to
begin, I drove back down and saw the stuff sold. I didn't buy any of it. A
local book dealer bought the diaries for about $7000 dollars plus 10 percent
commission. $7700 and he couldn't even read them or know for sure what they
were about.
Monday afternoon I stop by Acorn to see Stan about something. He tells me he
had some visitors that morning. The FBI had stopped in. They got a list of
all the people who bought Wang Dan's stuff and went to all of them and bought
it all back. They paid the buyers more money than was bid. Everyone made some
kind of profit, but probably not the amount they were hoping for.
Stan tells me there were also some pictures of naked boys he found in the
unit. Young naked boys. Not good. At first he thought he had thrown them out
with the rest of the trash that inevitably comes with a storage unit
purchase, but wasn't really sure. Turns out he still had them in the backroom
along with a few other things in a some beer flats, which he was going to
toss but then the FBI showed up. The FBI agent asked Stan how much he thought
he could sell the stuff in the beer flats for. Stan, thinking quickly, said
it was worth about $1000. So the agent paid him a grand on the spot and took
all the stuff that Stan was going to toss, including the porn.
Later Monday afternoon I'm home and Nancy Hearst calls me. She is a little
tense. She wants to know whether I bought anything at the auction and who
else bought stuff. She asks her questions slowly, unlike when I talked with
her a couple of days earlier. She keeps pausing between sentences as if
someone else is in the room with her. I tell her I don't know who bought
what, but I didn't buy any of it because she didn't answer her phone. She
told me she didn't pick up because she was afraid I might be from the Chinese
embassy. Of course.
Totally no shit here. True story. The FBI told Stan they were buying all Wang
Dan's stuff back as a matter of national security. Considering that Dan was
one big, huge thorn in the side of the Chinese government and that he was the
darling of the American pro-life crowd, and the politically conservative
crowd, and a bunch of other crowds that hated PRC, and that no less than
President Bill Clinton secured his release from Chinese jail and that Harvard
had gladly taken him in, I'd guess Wang Dan's photographs were kind of an
embarrassment that the U.S. government wanted to forget about. Forever.
Posted by Alden Howes Olson at 12:00 PM
Labels: copied 10-dec-2013
該文的網絡存檔:http://web.archive.org/…/wanderingtheoutskirts.blogspot.com/
以下有請丹粉為大家解釋,丹哥很Nice的,這當中一定有什麼誤會!
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羅利空
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孫文表示:
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難怪挺摸奶
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孫文 偉大的先驅者
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八卦回來了!
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完了完了 我爸也很愛逗狗玩 是不是要趕快通知FBI
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自己人
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上次健保事件早黑了
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挺八卦的,清大不續聘的內幕之一?
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王丹和太多男孩子交往,如果不當接觸未成年男孩的
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甲甲奶昔一家親
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吱吱就愛這一味
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王丹超垃圾 不過這種指控沒比較好
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想想Michael Jackson的例子
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這篇會爆
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點進去根本沒原文...嗯?隨便找個部落格抹一下就跑?
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本卦缺陷在於:沒有法院認證。 失敗…
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狗咬狗膩
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噁心 戀童老甲甲
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中國人互鬥好猛
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蠻好笑的
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至少把照片拿出來讓大家聞香一下
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FBI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FREEEZZ!!
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老共只剩這種程度的抹黑阿
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典型的抹黑
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..戀童 在美國早抓了 有實質證據嗎
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沒證據
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主舟!!
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想想麥可
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到底是我們眼瞎,還是說這是抹黑?
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= =
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不意外 學運專出這種咖
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感覺又是典型的七分真 三分假的廢文
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若他真的有相關問題 以後也可能也無法入境美國吧
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還勾結江洋大盜、推老婆婆下海、強姦母豬對吧
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噓修文扯健保那件事來護這篇廢文
作者: bernicellu (bernice)   2015-01-25 14:08:00
這有點太腦補了吧..兩個人合理交往..是個人自由除非王丹強迫未成年人和他交往..怎麼可能..不當流言因為這樣就違法了阿..曹長青有事嗎,口說要有憑吧喜不喜歡王丹是一回事..但不能講得那麼誇張,證據勒
作者: wowtw108   2015-01-25 14:11:00
曹長青這人非常反共,不過我搞不懂他為什麼特別討厭王丹
作者: bernicellu (bernice)   2015-01-25 14:13:00
王丹健保費這事處理的不好..但不能亂牽拖其他事吧就算未成年人要和王丹交往..他本人自願,父母同意
作者: g6m3kimo (名為變態的神父)   2015-01-25 14:15:00
一碼歸一碼
作者: bernicellu (bernice)   2015-01-25 14:15:00
只要王丹沒違法..曹長青就對他人感情世界管太寬王丹要交幾個男朋友..是干曹長青屁事曹長青有些評論不錯,但請就訴諸公評的事件,提出評論洩洩只叫還有宅男藏美女裸照沒事..同志為何不能藏另一半艷照
作者: slashlin (Bo Rhap)   2015-01-25 14:24:00
中國青
作者: bernicellu (bernice)   2015-01-25 14:24:00
如果有涉及未成年權益,就舉發阿..不然,講這些幹麻

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