Re: [普雷] 猛毒其實就蠻中規中矩的阿

作者: carotyao (汐止吳慷仁)   2018-10-03 18:50:37
分享一下為什麼我覺得這個版本的venom塑造的還不錯的原因
可以參照這篇
https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/movie/M.1533090350.A.F0F.html
基本上比較少人會從"第一個上身的是死侍"的角度去切入猛毒的,
因為那意義不大就是了。
接下來就劇透了
接下來就劇透了
這是猛毒對宿主們的評價,
因為是猛毒所以語法很奇怪。
Been to many worlds, but none of them this strange.
Understood feelings before, but simple feelings -
like colors, bold and bright. Happy. Sad. Angry.
我去過了很多地方,但沒有一個像這裡這麼奇怪,
很多以前知道的感情,但更加的純粹。
像是色彩,大膽且明亮、快樂、傷心以及憤怒。
Then... met Spider-Man. Feelings got complicated.
Learned guilt. Also the first time I felt fear. Felt agony.
Learned feeling: Betrayal. Learned first words they called me.
Monster. Parasite. Bad.[...]
Feels good to be a hero. Did bad things, too. Can't deny.
然後,遇見了蜘蛛人,我的情感變得複雜,
學會了內就也是我第一次感到了恐懼,感受到了難受,
也讓我學到了.........被背叛。
我也學到了很多字眼,他們這樣叫我。
「怪物」「寄生蟲」「壞東西」
我很開心我當個英雄,但我也不否認我做過很多壞事。
Mac Gargan was bad. Thoughts like poison stingers.
It was a thrill to kill. Knew it was bad. Didn't care.
Gargan made it easy. Got to punish Gargan for what he did.
He was evil and afraid.
Mac Gargan是個壞傢伙(返校日電影那個臉上有疤的些子人,
他的想法就像毒針一樣,對她來說殺人是種快感,
他知道這很壞,但是不在乎,對他來說這輕而易舉。
必須要制裁他的所作所為,他是邪惡且令人害怕的。
Lee Price was not afraid. He was a soldier. Hurt and desperate.
I trusted him. Talked to him. But Lee was too strong.
Didn't want to talk. Didn't want to be a hero. Wanted power.
Couldn't stop the bad things he was doing.
Lee was bad. Hurt me. Eddie hurts me too, sometimes,
李並不令人害怕,他是個士兵,一個傷心透頂的人。
我信任他,我與他聊天,但李有點太強大了,
他拒絕溝通,他不想當個英雄,
他只想要力量,我沒辦法阻止他幹壞事。
李也是壞蛋,他傷害了我,Eddie也會傷害我,有些時候。
but Eddie is different. Eddie never means to.[...] if Eddie is good,
why do we disagree? if disagree... am I a monster? parasite? bad?
can't be bad.
但Eddie是與眾不同的,他不真正具備「某個身分」
如果他當個好人的話為什麼我們要否定他?
如果否定他的話,
那我們是個怪物、寄生蟲、壞蛋、那又哪裡錯了。
Wasn't bad with Flash. Fought with heroes.
Was a hero. Trained another symbiote. Got to learn. Got to teach.
Flash called me partner. Was never afraid like Spider-Man.
But Flash is gone... and heroes don't hide. Not from anything...
especially their mistakes
跟Flash在一起也不錯,我們是一組英雄,曾經是。
我們訓練了別的共生體,我們一起學習、一起指導。
Flash叫我夥伴,他也不會像蜘蛛人那樣恐懼我,
但Flash已經死了。..............
那些英雄從不躲藏、從不迴避任何事情,特別是他們所犯的錯.....
這個Venom沒有被這些人上過身,
他對Eddie的情感是純粹的,是簡單的,
自然得到的迴響也就是這麼單純有趣,
最近漫畫上面的猛毒也因為Flash跟Eddie往好的方向成長類似是這樣了,
所以我覺得他沒有殘暴,
沒有以往Venom最重要的情感"憤怒"是合理的,
因為Venom的憤怒是來自於被蜘蛛人的背叛+Eddie怨恨蜘蛛人造成的,
(前面連結有理由)但Venom並沒有經歷過這些。
關於這點是我想幫本片Venom個性跟行為上平反的,
也是為什麼我會喜歡這樣的塑造的XD
感謝
作者: ScorpioJI102 (Benji)   2018-10-03 21:20:00
是內"疚"吧

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