[新聞] 烏克蘭議長尋求與波蘭對Volhynia屠殺和解

作者: A6 (短ID真好)   2023-05-26 18:08:37
https://youtu.be/C3E8epJv-gc?t=106
波蘭英語新聞 提到 烏克蘭議長訪波就"道歉"
沒錯 你可以聽到 波蘭新聞中用的是道歉
我聽到很震驚 所以我標題一度使用道歉
馬上去查 這消息很新 基本沒什麼新聞
查到的新聞大概如下
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/05/25/ukraine-poland-volhynia-massacre-reconciliation/cded7d9c-fafe-11ed-bafc-bf50205661da_story.html
Ukraine offers reconciliation to ally Poland over World War II-era massacre
WARSAW, Poland — The chairman of Ukraine’s parliament on Thursday offered
words of reconciliation over World War II-era mass murders that have strained
relations with its neighbor and strategic ally Poland for 80 years.
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“Human life has equal value, regardless of nationality, race, sex or
religion,” Ruslan Stefanchuk told Polish lawmakers. “With this awareness we
will cooperate with you, dear Polish friends, and we will accept the truth
regardless of how uncompromising it may be.”
Stefanchuk’s words sounded a new tone and were in contrast to the recent
angry reaction of Ukraine's ambassador to Polish expectations of an apology.
Poland this year is marking the 80th anniversary of the 1943-44 massacre of
some 100,000 Poles by Ukrainian nationalists and others in Volhynia and other
regions that were then in eastern Poland, under Nazi German occupation, and
which are now part of Ukraine.
Entire villages were burned down and all their inhabitants killed by the
nationalists and their helpers seeking to establish an independent Ukraine
state. Poland calls the events a genocide.
An estimated 15,000 Ukrainians died in retaliation.
Stefanchuk was speaking in Poland’s parliament during a visit to Warsaw.
Poland has been offering military and humanitarian support to Ukraine in its
war with Russia.
Stefanchuk thanked Poland for the current support, and then offered sympathy
to the families of the Poles slain in what is known as the Volhynia massacre.
He also offered a joint effort to identify and honor all the victims buried
in Ukraine.
Poland has long been seeking Kyiv’s permission for exhumations,
identification and commemoration of the Polish victims. However, some of the
Ukrainian nationalist leaders of the time are regarded as key figures for
Ukraine’s statehood, lending a different perspective there to the events.
Stefanchuk thanked the families of the victims for cultivating a memory which
“does not call for revenge or hatred, but which serves as a warning that
nothing like that can ever happen between our nations again.”
He said that identification and honoring of the victims “without bans or
barriers” is “our joint moral and Christian obligation.”
He said that an open, joint approach to the painful history would be an “
exceptionally necessary test” that could pave the way for the words “we
forgive and ask for forgiveness.” Those words, offered by Poland’s Catholic
bishops to Germany’s bishops in the 1960s, laid the foundations for Poland’
s reconciliation with its World War II aggressor, Germany.
Polish Foreign Minister Zbigniew Rau described Stefanchuk’s speech as “very
good,” saying that “we have heard what we wanted to hear.”
“We are on the right path and this speech shows that our positions are
getting closer again. We have something to build on,” Rau said.
Poland’s leaders have insisted that bringing the full truth into the open
will strengthen bilateral relations with Ukraine and neutralize
vulnerabilities that could be exploited by third countries seeking to
undermine these ties.
作者: moslaa (萬變蛾)   2023-05-26 18:30:00
大概看了一下。這個基本上就是舊恨不如新仇,為了對抗俄國當下的入侵,決定去解決過去的老問題,過去可能基於面子啥的,烏克蘭不願意跟波蘭認錯,但現在考慮到需要波蘭的協助,所以決定把這件事認下來了懶得看內文的人,我補充說明,目前烏克蘭領土有部分取自波蘭,二戰期間,為了確保領土內沒有波蘭人,曾殺過當地的前波蘭國民。因為當時有當時的政治正確,所以顯然烏克蘭一直到這條新聞為止,都不肯認當時有啥錯。
作者: leptoneta (台湾高山族自治区书记)   2023-05-26 19:41:00
先把利沃夫還回去再說吧
作者: kevin11951 (kevin11951)   2023-05-27 10:12:00
這樣沒有違反板規3?
作者: dennisdecade (尼德希克)   2023-05-27 12:18:00
大敵當前 敵人的敵人之間就算不願意也只能選擇和解就跟南韓打算接受旭日旗日艦入港一樣
作者: saram (saram)   2023-05-27 22:03:00
旭日旗是日本海軍旗,有何不對?日本與韓國沒敵對.
作者: hgt (王契赧)   2023-05-27 22:22:00
不覺得有啥好震驚!!! 我感覺你就是一直在帶風向!!!一開始帶烏克蘭有納粹傾向,現在又在帶烏克蘭跟西方盟國有矛盾的風向!!
作者: leptoneta (台湾高山族自治区书记)   2023-05-27 23:17:00
不到歷史板 不知道警總還在搞
作者: cht12341234 (55688)   2023-05-28 09:20:00
記得二戰後,蘇聯國家整個西移,波蘭挖德國一部分,蘇聯再挖波蘭一部分烏克蘭沒有能值得講的國家英雄
作者: hgt (王契赧)   2023-05-28 15:25:00
沒有說你不能提呀!! 就我覺得是帶風向呀!! 不行嗎??別人支持烏克蘭,你就去研究烏克蘭是否有納粹傾向!!波蘭大力支援烏克蘭,就開始研究波蘭與烏克蘭有什麼問題矛盾你怎麼不研究中國和俄羅斯有何矛盾?? 怎麼不研究白俄和俄羅斯有何矛盾?? 怎麼不研究白俄或俄羅斯有沒有納粹傾向???所以我說的沒錯呀!!! 你就是想研究對烏克蘭不利的東西不是嗎所以我說你是帶風向,沒說你不能提,也沒說你是對是錯呀!!!在俄烏終端上,你就是傾向研究對烏不利的這邊!!!爭
作者: cht12341234 (55688)   2023-05-28 17:31:00
傾向對誰不利有利是個人自由,我們不是法院要判是非,爽支持誰又如何,h又被戳到
作者: hgt (王契赧)   2023-05-29 08:50:00
那就請也PO一些關於其他國家的文章,這樣就不會有帶風向的感覺了阿!!
作者: Ariettina (Ari)   2023-05-29 13:23:00
帶風向(X) 玻璃心自以為別人在帶風向(O)
作者: HarunoYukino   2023-05-30 00:05:00
平常笑別人玻璃心,結果自己才是那個玻璃心。真有趣
作者: zeumax (煙灰缸裡的魚)   2023-05-30 02:36:00
主題就是烏克蘭,雖然極端右翼及新納粹不止發生在烏克蘭但他只談烏克蘭和俄羅斯其實很合理吧
作者: hgt (王契赧)   2023-05-30 12:53:00
造謠說你沒寫其他國家??? 我什麼時候說過??我是說你怎麼不研究中國俄羅斯白俄羅斯之間有啥矛盾!!!我看你才是造謠吧!!! 7pupu!!
作者: want150 (張氏的大號令)   2023-05-30 13:13:00
我覺得已經有點誇張了 這裡是學術研究的版 檢討政治立場幹嘛不去政黑發文
作者: GilGalad (狂想は亡國の調べ)   2023-05-30 17:57:00
定期發作的甭多費口舌 送檢舉讓大家清靜清靜功德無量
作者: hgt (王契赧)   2023-05-30 18:48:00
正常推文是要檢舉啥???章呀!! 這句話是在說有可能你PO在其他版我沒看到呀!!怎麼會解讀成你不寫其他國家??快笑死!!! 只會抓語病!! 好啊!! "請也PO一些關於其他國家的文章" 跟說你不寫其他國家有啥關係???這明明是說可能PO在其他版我沒看到,所以請你PO在本版呀也或是在本版,我沒認真找呀!!!帶風向就認吧!!! 搞到要找語病來辯解!! 超搞笑!!

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