[新聞] Toyota Mirai 車主被要求要經常加滿氫氣

作者: Scape (non)   2018-07-31 10:22:34
原文連結:
https://goo.gl/8RVxYo
原文內容:
Hydrogen Shortage Hits Hard: Toyota Mirai Owners Urged To Top Up Frequently
標題:來自於氫氣短缺的沉重打擊:Mirai 車主被要求要經常加滿氫氣
Hydrogen shortages in California are causing trouble with refueling hydrogen
fuel cell cars, particularly in the Los Angeles area.
加州的氫氣短缺給氫燃料電池汽車加氫帶來了麻煩,特別是在洛杉磯地區。
We were often told that hydrogen is the most abundant element, so we wonder
how it could be that there are shortages? Especially shortages at places like
hydrogen refueling stations, where there should be hydrogen everywhere.
氫是最豐富的元素,所以我們想知道怎麼會短缺? 特別是加氫站等地方的短缺,
應該到處都有氫氣。
According to a Green Car Reports article, at least at some of the 33 hydrogen
refueling stations in California, FCVs owners might be surprised by a lack of
hydrogen.
根據Green Car Reports 的一篇文章,至少在加州的33個加氫站,FCV的車主可能會
因氫氣短缺而感到驚訝。
At one station there is even a message with info from Toyota: “Be advised:
Hydrogen delivery issues everywhere. Don’t take chances, top off frequently.
Toyota hotline says dealers know, will comp you for rental car.”
在一個加氫站點,甚至還貼了一張來自Toyota 的公告:
“請注意:氫氣運送問題隨時有可能發生。 不要冒險,經常加滿。
Toyota 熱線說,經銷商知道這問題,將為您提供租車服務。”
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Not only Toyota Mirai drivers (3,687 sales by the end of June 2018) but also
those with Honda Clarity Fuel Cell and Hyundai Tucson Fuel Cell vehicles will
be affected.
不僅Toyota Mirai 車主(2018年6月底前總銷量為3,687輛),還有Honda Clarity 和
Hyundai Tucson FCV 將受到影響。
(註:Mirai 2015年8月開始在美國銷售)
Well, the cause seems to be unexpected disruptions at Air Products, which
supplies the hydrogen. They are suggesting it will be early August before
supplies are restored.
原因似乎是供應氫氣的Air Products 公司的意外。他們暗示將在8月初恢復供應。
“Toyota is aware that certain fuel-cell vehicle owners in the Los Angeles
area are currently experiencing refueling challenges because of limited
hydrogen supply at several local fueling stations. While the station operator
works to resolve this short-term issue, we are working with our Mirai
(fuel-cell car) customers to help identify alternative fueling options,
including as a temporary measure, opening our commercial hydrogen fueling
station at the Port of Long Beach…We sincerely regret the current
inconvenience for our customers,” Toyota said in a statement emailed to
Green Car Reports.”
Toyota 意識到LA 地區的某些FCV 車主目前正在經歷加氫挑戰,因為幾個當地加氫站
的氫氣供應有限。 當加氫站運營商努力解決這個短期問題時,我們正在與我們的Mirai
客戶合作,幫助確保替代燃料選擇,包括作為臨時措施,在Port of Long Beach 開放
我們的商用氫燃料站......我們真誠地為我們的客戶帶來的不便表示遺憾,
“Toyota 在發給Green Car Reports 的email 中如此說道。”
And here is what Green Car Reports learned from Air Products spokesman Arthur
George:
以下是Green Car Reports 從Air Products 發言人Arthur George 那裡聽來的:
“We are actively working to resolve this unexpected disruption, which has
been caused by a contemporaneous series of unrelated issues at several liquid
hydrogen production and supply sites. We are addressing the matter as rapidly
as we can and are hopeful to have the situation remedied and have restored
regular hydrogen supply in the early days of August. We regret any
inconvenience that may have resulted…. We regret any inconvenience fueling
customers may be currently experiencing, and reassure you we are focused on
resolving the issue as soon as possible,”
Well, we can now add worries of lack of hydrogen to the lists of doubts we
have connected to FCVs.
心得/說明:
Mirai 在北美賣了兩年11個月賣出36xx 輛,主要的問題除了產能極為有限之外
需求也是一大問題
雖然FCV 對比BEV 有著補充燃料快速的優點
但前提是基礎設施要完善、數量多,供應也要不虞匱乏
如果開去加氫站來回要半小時,加氫5分鐘
那相對於可以在家充電的BEV 來說反而是多花時間
FCV 想在家裡補充燃料是幾乎不可能的(需要投入的資金跟空間太多)
另外氫氣也跟汽油一樣,需要車輛運輸到站點
這新聞就是因為氫氣供應商出問題而導致無氫可加
目前FCV 也開不出加州,因為站點實在太少了,找不到地方加氫
這些目前就直接面對的問題,導致FCV 需求不高
除非有哪間大車廠轉型成能源供應商
(靠政府的話可能需要十幾年或幾十年都還不一定辦的成,變數太多)
先自行砸下大筆金錢建設基礎設施與確保氫氣供應
(一座加氫站不含土地需花費3-500萬鎂)
否則對消費者來說,看到加氫站那麼少,就很難提升FCV 的需求
另外就是目前加氫對比BEV 所需的電費其實是很貴的(Toyota 有補貼Mirai 車主)
不過若是用在商用的大客車大卡車上,因為路線固定不需要很多加氫站
FCV 就很適合
作者: zzahoward (Cheshire Cat)   2018-07-31 10:28:00
Toyota已經把FCV重心完全放在商用車上了事實上去年底Toyota某些訊息就透露FCV在小車上面註定難普及 所以FCV未來新推出的車型主力將會都是商用車
作者: Gunslinger (串燒)   2018-07-31 10:42:00
坐等某缸
作者: zzahoward (Cheshire Cat)   2018-07-31 10:42:00
這是FCV氫氣罐阿 可以放在大車上面就我知道的狀態是他們方向確定是把能量全部投注在大車小車目前暫時不投入更多資源小車會轉型成EV
作者: jason89514 (節省福克斯)   2018-07-31 10:57:00
二代Miral/Lexus LS FC都還是會出,然後目前與本田合作的基礎建設工程一直都有在進行,但速度相對慢其中mirai將會用新GA-L氫氣燃料平台所以不是不做,只是因為Sora為了2020東奧出來之後想要試探一下風向
作者: zzahoward (Cheshire Cat)   2018-07-31 11:10:00
我指的是Pipeline 你提到的車款基本上都在收成階段了
作者: a9564208 (YOU OUT!!)   2018-07-31 11:18:00
大車接下來會有汰換潮,投資大車合理其他跟不上的只怕會被時代淘汰
作者: callmedance (NightFury)   2018-07-31 11:22:00
電隨處可得用氫氣也太麻煩了
作者: ghjkl5566 (56不能王)   2018-07-31 14:14:00
LS要出FC喔!酷
作者: ru04hj4 (純樸鄉下人II)   2018-07-31 14:51:00
氫能很難推動 畢竟設充電站比加氫站容易多加上電池可以用在 儲能 3C 動力 投資金額很大
作者: ghjkl5566 (56不能王)   2018-07-31 15:12:00
氫你就把它當成另一種電池看的話,樓上你講的那些氫一樣辦的到唷不過3C大概辦不到就是了
作者: marathons ( 豆娘 囊鼠 蜂鳥 )   2018-07-31 19:02:00
我不想買Mirai最大原因是:包括駕駛只能坐四個人.
作者: SakuraHana (櫻花)   2018-07-31 22:58:00
台灣的電缺成這樣,隨時都在短缺喔~哪天跳電、停電,是瞬間沒有喔~不像氫就算短缺,只是量變少,不會完全沒有
作者: iamspy (寧)   2018-07-31 23:27:00
居然還能這樣解釋,真不愧是封缸
作者: jack852   2018-08-01 07:04:00
賣不出去的車....跟sony當時的MD有87分像

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