Re: [問題] Froome與阿姆斯壯的環法比較

作者: rivet (累~~~)   2016-07-22 02:15:48
既然有人提到了Armstrong,版友可以趁這個機會從多個面向去了解這個傢伙!
http://www.bbc.com/sport/cycling/31072462
首先這個2015年初的訪問,面對BBC的Dan Roan的問題...如果時光倒流,你還要不要作弊
,Armstrong 的回答是"probably do it again."!
這段歷史的故事非常特別(尤其是道德上的兩難), 分享一下跟Armstrong相關的紀錄
片, 可以幫助麻瓜入場
首先是 Stop At Nothing The Lance Armstrong Story
另外一部是導過紀錄片Taxi to the dark side的名導演 Alex Gibney 的
The Armstrong Lie
以上這兩部Youtube都可以找到品質較差的版本
其中我比較推Stop At Nothing The Lance Armstrong Story
裏頭有幾個主角的故事非常令人著迷, 分別是
1. Christophe Bassons, 一個不願意跟大家一起使用禁藥的車手, 結果被Armstrong
跟集團大部分車手公幹,大家可以去查wiki,衰翻了!
2. Greg Lemond, 三度環法冠軍, 在Armstrong前唯一拿到環法冠軍的美國人, 甘冒大不
韙?
主流媒體,懷疑Armstrong作弊, 結果被Armstrong的贊助廠商Trek惡搞, 而且還被
抹黑成個忌妒Armstrong的魯蛇!
3. Betsy Andreu, Armstrong隊友 Frankie Andreu 的老婆, 因為夫婦倆在聽證會上被
迫做出不利於Armstrong的證詞, 導致老公被Armstrong惡搞,這強悍的女子就大爆炸開始
在媒體上跟Armstrong進行長時間的對抗
被Armstrong惡搞到出名的還有 Emma O'Reilly、Filippo Simeoni跟一些
質疑Armstrong作弊的記者,例如Dave Walsh等...
在那個年代用藥跟EPO都是普遍的現象,如今大部分的人厭惡Armstrong 並不在他的
用藥,而是如何霸凌、抹黑別人跟極差的人品...
最後附上這個影片
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVbrTNX7w1I
背景故事在 Filippo Simeoni wiki 有介紹
More famous is Simeoni's argument with Lance Armstrong. Simeoni was treated
by doctor Michele Ferrari, who was also Armstrong's doctor. Simeoni testified
in court that he began doping in 1993, that Dr. Ferrari had prescribed him
doping products such as EPO and Human Growth Hormone in 1996 and 1997, and
that Ferrari also gave him instructions on how to use these products.[3] In
2001 and 2002 Simeoni was suspended for several months for doping use.
Armstrong reportedly called Simeoni a "liar" in an interview with the French
newspaper Le Monde in July 2003. Simeoni lodged a charge of defamation
against Armstrong and demanded €100,000. Simeoni announced that he would
give any money awarded to him to charity.
Simeoni上法院作證自己接受了Dr. Ferrari的指導如何用藥跟使用EPO (Dr. Ferrari 湊

也是Armstrong的藥頭),所以搞得Armstrong超級不爽...
On the 18th stage of the 2004 edition of the Tour de France, Simeoni gapped
up to a breakaway of six riders that posed no threat to Armstrong's leading
position. Nevertheless, Armstrong followed Simeoni, which prompted
Armstrong's rival T-Mobile Team to try to catch the breakaway. This would not
only catch Simeoni but also eliminate the stage winning chances of the six
riders in the original breakaway. The six riders implored Armstrong to drop
back to the peloton, but Armstrong would not go unless Simeoni went with him
and the two riders dropped back to the peloton.[4] When Simeoni dropped back,
he was abused by other riders, including Andrea Peron, Filippo Pozzato and
Giuseppe Guerini. In a later interview, he told of how Daniele Nardello also
abused him, calling him "a disgrace".[5] Afterwards, Armstrong made a
"zip-the-lips" gesture but later said that Simeoni "did not deserve" to win a
stage. Two days later was the final stage, which is usually a slow stage in
which the Tour winner (in 2004 it was Armstrong) already celebrates his
victory. But in this stage Simeoni continuously attacked, to take revenge for
what Armstrong did three days before, but was reeled in every time by
Armstrong's team.[6] Simeoni was again insulted and spat at by other riders
after this.
以上是Simeoni被惡搞的過程~
ps.我自己認為 Armstrong的好勝心在車手中並不特別,但行銷跟雞掰的能力卻是
Top 1,這點歷史會給他公道的!
※ 引述《Boonen (Tommeke)》之銘言:
: 標題: [問題] Froome與阿姆斯壯的環法比較
: 時間: Thu Jul 21 17:53:05 2016
:
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: 這邊先不討論用藥的道德問題,
: 阿姆斯壯在環法七連霸上的表現與 Froome這幾年, 比較起來有什麼特別的差異點嗎?
:
: 壯哥在威的時候我才國小, 只知道那時候新聞都會說環法根本是 Tour de Lance
: (Lance Armstrong)
: 他的個人能力強項是在哪邊? 他當時的隊友又是如何呢?
:
: Froome除了個人爬坡能力, 再加上這屆的下坡能力跟衝刺能力, 感覺更全面了
: 還有 Team Sky 到處蒐集 GC 車手組成的夢幻隊伍
:
: 有沒有老車迷可以分析比較一下的?
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