[討論] 關於QD上半場罰球違規那個判例

作者: asdfgh0920 (A醬)   2017-02-05 20:31:24
關於上半場QD被判罰球違規那個判例,一開始我也是在LIVE文忿忿不平
所以跑去查了FIBA相關規範
以下是2014 fiba的規定:
43.2.3. The free-throw shooter shall:
關於罰球員的規範 :
o Take a position behind the free-throw line and inside the
semi-circle.
o Use any method to shoot a free throw in such a way that the ball enters
the basket from above or the ball touches the ring.
o Release the ball within 5 seconds after it is placed at his disposal by
the official.
從裁判手中接過球後,應在五秒內投射離手
o Not touch the free-throw line or enter the restricted area until the ball
has entered the basket or has touched the ring.
o Not fake a free throw.
不得做罰球假動作
43.2.4. The players in the free-throw rebound places shall be entitled to
occupy alternating positions in these spaces, which are considered
to be 1 m in depth .
During the free throws these players shall not:
o Occupy free-throw rebound places to which they are not entitled.
o Enter the restricted area, the neutral zone or leave the free-throw rebound
place until the ball has left the hand(s) of the free-throw shooter.
o Distract the free-throw shooter by their actions.
搶籃板球時,不得以任何動作干擾主罰球員
43.2.5. Players not in the free-throw rebound places shall remain behind the
free-throw line extended and behind the 3-point field goal line until
the free throw ends.
43.2.6. During a free throw(s) to be followed by another set(s) of free throws
or by a throw-in, all players shall remain behind the free-throw line
extended and behind the 3-point field goal line.
An infraction of Art. 43.2.3, 43.2.4, 43.2.5 and 43.2.6 is a violation.
違反規則43.2.3條、43.2.4條、43.2.5條、43.2.6條,均屬於違規
43.3. Penalty
罰則
43.3.1. If a free throw is successful and the violation(s) is committed by the
free-throw shooter, the point, if made, shall not count.
如果罰球中籃,但是罰球員違規的情形,則球進分數不算
Any other player's violation which occurs immediately before, at
approximately the same time as, or after the violation committed by
the free-throw shooter shall be disregarded.
如果罰球員違規,則在之前、同時或是之後的其他球員違規均不追究
The ball shall be awarded to the opponents for a throw-in at the
free-throw line extended unless there is a further free throw(s) or
possession penalty to be administered.
43.3.2. If a free throw is successful and the violation(s) is committed by any
player(s) other than the free-throw shooter:
o The point, if made, shall count.
o The violation(s) shall be disregarded.
如果罰球中籃,而其他球員違規時:中籃有效,且不追究違例
In case of the last or only free throw, the ball shall be awarded to
the opponents for a throw-in at any place at the endline.
43.3.3. If a free throw is not successful and the violation is committed by:
o A free-throw shooter or his team-mate on the last or only free throw, the
ball shall be awarded to the opponents for a throw-in at the free-throw line
extended unless that team is entitled to further possession.
o An opponent of the free-throw shooter, a substitute free throw shall be
awarded to the free-throw shooter.
如果罰球未進,而罰球員的對手違例時,由罰球員重新罰球
o Both teams, on the last or only free throw, a jump ball situation occurs.
研究了規定後,我認為:
富邦搶籃板球員進場過早干擾了QD的罰球,屬於罰球違規在先沒錯
但是QD還是要球投出完成罰球動作
之後如果罰球沒進,裁判才會吹判重新罰球
QD因為沒有出手,裁判要判罰球假動作或是5秒違規都可以
根據43.3.1 如果罰球員違規,則在之前、同時或是之後的其他球員違規均不追究
因此我認為這次吹判沒有問題,大家討論看看0.0
作者: x73831   2017-02-05 20:34:00
優質好文 推推推
作者: JoelEmbiid (JoelEmbiid)   2017-02-05 20:35:00
但是覺得進場就可以先喊停了已經先違例
作者: jerry213 (平安健康順心如意)   2017-02-05 20:35:00
嗯 似乎是如此 再賭爛球都要丟出去
作者: minwook0329 (ryeonggu)   2017-02-05 20:36:00
就算先進場也不能喊停 要罰出手後沒進才能算違例 進了不追究
作者: NowQmmmmmmmm (滷蛇之王)   2017-02-05 20:37:00
我認為要雙方警告就好 因為張也太早進場卡位了XD
作者: StarTouching (撫星)   2017-02-05 20:37:00
除非有明顯干擾罰球動作
作者: k71398426   2017-02-05 20:37:00
原來如此 專業推
作者: cwy1029   2017-02-05 20:37:00
張伯維整個站在Q面前..裁判就應該要先吹了吧這已經比球員腳先踏進去還明顯了.....原來直接卡在罰球員面前不算明顯干擾罰球阿......
作者: Dhc789 (開心看球)   2017-02-05 20:40:00
我進去罰球線遮你眼睛也可以
作者: toko81814 (toko)   2017-02-05 20:40:00
長知識 推
作者: kevinpeng (彭彭)   2017-02-05 20:40:00
這真的爛招
作者: jeff20039612 (po xiao)   2017-02-05 20:43:00
重點是裁判不會吹啊
作者: Tigerchan   2017-02-05 20:44:00
對手違例造成Q無法出手 結果判Q沒出手違例 ...
作者: QchchQ (情比金堅)   2017-02-05 20:45:00
你怎麼知道q出手沒進裁判會不會吹進場過早富黑可能也會說裁判不會吹吧
作者: issaquah (真是不容易)   2017-02-05 20:46:00
問題是張伯維先進來卡位Q才沒出手的啊
作者: Tigerchan   2017-02-05 20:46:00
每次富邦比賽就一堆奇怪判決 掉鞋暫停等等 也別怪球迷
作者: cwy1029   2017-02-05 20:47:00
裁判是有很大可能不會吹阿...不然這球怎麼會改判
作者: Tigerchan   2017-02-05 20:47:00
一直酸富邦啦 雖然都是裁判問題比較大
作者: agaer (天才)   2017-02-05 20:47:00
張卡在Q前面是在Q罰球假動作之後
作者: iliyu (煎肉盤石)   2017-02-05 20:48:00
那我衝進去抄球這樣可以嗎= =?
作者: cwy1029   2017-02-05 20:48:00
球員進場過早踩進來很常看..第一次看到卡在罰球員面前的
作者: Beantownfan (豆城電風扇)   2017-02-05 20:48:00
是FIBA推廣不利 還是臺灣球迷對規則普遍不知?
作者: cwy1029   2017-02-05 20:49:00
到底Q是哪來的假動作....是張整個卡在他面前才停止的
作者: iuy1232002   2017-02-05 20:50:00
最好有奇怪判決都怪在富邦身上
作者: Tigerchan   2017-02-05 20:51:00
我說了是裁判問題很大阿 但富邦有得利情況下 被酸2句也很正常啊
作者: Mcgeeagenius (天才麥基)   2017-02-05 21:01:00
作者: eros910696 (lassiter)   2017-02-05 21:01:00
我跟你賭Q投出去裁判他媽的不會吹進場過早啦幹
作者: qoocod0923 (第幾把交椅)   2017-02-05 21:03:00
就差別q沒有直接出手反而害了自己
作者: sissyfox (西西湖)   2017-02-05 21:06:00
第一拍就要判張進場過早了 後面檢討Q怎樣都多餘
作者: h1212123tw (der龜)   2017-02-05 21:09:00
認真不懂為什麼要不進才吹?
作者: Wwc0130 (OMG)   2017-02-05 21:12:00
問題是你不能干擾罰球員 之後才有得好好討論
作者: erotica (eee)   2017-02-05 21:13:00
派布拉過去擋 180後衛根本沒辦法出手 罰球者違例XD還是要用勾射應罰個出手動作 照規則好棒棒
作者: yangmie (楊咩)   2017-02-05 21:20:00
這種小動作很常見阿 不過這次張衝特別快明顯蓄意衝過去干擾罰球員的就直接吹t了哪有什麼那我下次就怎樣怎樣干擾的假設
作者: HollyCross (台客阿嘎)   2017-02-05 21:24:00
好文推!!!
作者: yangmie (楊咩)   2017-02-05 21:26:00
為什麼出手後才有違例的吹判是因為這樣對罰球者有利
作者: LEO19750 (愛好自由)   2017-02-05 21:29:00
Q在別人罰球時也會突然舉手 這樣也干擾到主罰球員啊
作者: cwy1029   2017-02-05 21:32:00
Q又沒踏進場也沒出聲音...你管他舉手幹嘛
作者: NowQmmmmmmmm (滷蛇之王)   2017-02-05 21:34:00
NBA還有人家罰球脫褲子的咧..裁判也不會吹阿
作者: blackhearted (...)   2017-02-05 21:36:00
黑富邦戰隊快上
作者: anitakkk (anita)   2017-02-05 21:39:00
長知識了! 但不曉得有無2016或2017的更新?
作者: erotica (eee)   2017-02-05 21:40:00
43.3.1 你前五個字就沒翻到啦"""If a free throw is successful and 巴拉巴拉 """死不出手不是successful啊 要照規則講那根本不是這條
作者: briandodo (dodo)   2017-02-05 21:48:00
下禮拜還要上節目解釋了嗎?
作者: yauli (無敵鐵金鋼)   2017-02-05 23:02:00
推有求知慾!
作者: vi6 (vi6)   2017-02-06 00:03:00
整個人都卡在前面了裁判不會吹判不會警告
作者: beautydots (看球人)   2017-02-06 00:10:00
看了影片覺得那並不是假動作,QD就是把球往上舉,***並沒有往下收***,張伯維踏進來干擾他可以不出手,***違例的是張伯維***
作者: Wavecloud   2017-02-06 00:49:00
張那個動作不只是進場過早 而是直接干擾罰球...
作者: captainba (巴船長)   2017-02-06 00:55:00
罰球麵包是違例,那如果派人去干擾讓主罰者投麵包,不就是算主罰者違例,不追究進場過早干擾的人,這樣好像也不太合理吧?不然一直派布拉進場過早站在罰球者前面就不用玩了啊
作者: stocktonty (前田憂佳)   2017-02-06 01:33:00
就算有人進場過早還是要出手 裁判沒吹是裁判問題
作者: yangmie (楊咩)   2017-02-06 02:21:00
重點就是你要去完成出手阿連出手都沒有完成 裁判也只能吹罰球員違例
作者: gogorodd   2017-02-06 07:42:00
講那麼多酸民沒興趣啦……跟他們認真你已輸惹
作者: beautydots (看球人)   2017-02-06 08:22:00
樓上比較酸
作者: gogorodd   2017-02-06 10:05:00
謝謝樓上稱讚XD
作者: beastlcc12 (獸皇)   2017-02-09 13:20:00
反正只要是富邦跟台啤 一定錯!! 法條也無視

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