[情報] Deutsche Bahn tenders for loco-hauled

作者: komachi275 (笨笨熊)   2017-03-05 00:18:22
http://railcolornews.com/2017/03/03/eu-deutsche-bahn-tenders-for-zugverbanden-lokomotiven-und-wagenzuge/
https://goo.gl/JwvuAS
[EU] Deutsche Bahn tenders for loco-hauled long distance passenger trains
Written by Railcolor Headquarters on 03.03.2017
The German railways (DB) are renewing their fleet for long distance traveling.
We are just months away from the start of serie-delivery of the new ICE4
trains, that should enter revenue earning service next December. Some sets
are already in ‘test service’ now between Hamburg and Munich.
Image above: Impression made by Railcolordesign.com, it has no relation to
Deutsche Bahn
Originally, in 2011, DB wanted to order both multi-system and AC voltage ICE4
trains, so they could be deployed in Germany, Switzerland, Austria and in DC
voltage countries such as the Netherlands. But these plans have changed over
time. The multi-system version was taken out of the program. Now, the ICE4
will be operated in Germany (homologation done) and Switzerland (in process).
DB has stated that homologation for Austria is also still desired, but will
be realized on a later moment.
ICE 4 trainset. Photo: Deutsche Bahn
Now DB has released a new tender for a framework agreement for newly built “
Zugverbänden (Lokomotiven und Wagenzüge)”: train compositions (locomotives
and loco-hauled rakes for passenger services). They need to be single-deck
and operable in Germany, Austria and “other European countries”.
Manufacturers can apply independently or as consortium.
Also, the manufacturer(s) must have produced a mainline train type that has
been fully approved for Austria and the Netherlands during the past five
years. It/They should have production capacity for at least twenty trains per
year, starting in 2021. One composition should have at least 485 seats.
You can read the whole tender here: ted.europa.eu
Railcolor: Is ordering loco-hauled stock for passenger service by the German
railways breaking with the trend to focus on articulated trains? Yes and no.
True, loco-hauled trains do not have a distributed power system, they are
more flexible as you can add or take-out coaches, in theory. In practice we
see that trains such as the Railjet from Austria, the Intercity Direct in the
Netherlands and DB’s own IC2 double deck trains are operated in fixed
compositions too, only locomotives change rake every now and then. Not
changing the composition of the train, is often preferred because on
economical arguments. An operator then saves on costs for the logistics of
shunting and having coaches available at strategic locations. When more
capacity is needed, than often two trains are coupled together.
‘Intercity 2’: The loco-hauled train as fixed unit. Photo: Deutsche Bahn
作者: Odakyu (青蛙騎士 瀬戸幸助)   2017-03-05 00:27:00
能介紹一下Viaggio Comfort嗎
作者: Stan6003 (巨猩)   2017-03-05 00:49:00
歐洲還是很愛動力集中式
作者: cutec (sasaki)   2017-03-05 00:58:00
看來ICE-4雖然號稱可以編組調整,但其作業的便利性似乎仍不如機車牽引的客車般容易。
作者: atriple (請逐項修改)   2017-03-05 00:59:00
順道一問,歐洲鐵路是否不在意營運速度可否達到300 kph?
作者: cutec (sasaki)   2017-03-05 01:01:00
EMU單量編組調整往往還是有一定系統侷限性,不如客車般可自由摘掛。這問題很難回答,因為歐洲是很多國家組成,每個國家對於鐵路高速化的需求不同,自然會有不同的作法。
作者: komachi275 (笨笨熊)   2017-03-05 01:14:00
法國很愛蓋LGV 但好像也只有西班牙跟進?
作者: velaro (下路雙組合)   2017-03-05 01:23:00
德國鐵路高速化主要是舊線改良,雖然不像法國全程都300公里但能夠遍及全國路網,日後再蓋高速新線
作者: cutec (sasaki)   2017-03-05 01:27:00
舊線改良會提升時速到200,專用的高速線則是時速280-300。
作者: shun01 (老胡做13年,青沼瞬活14年)   2017-03-05 01:57:00
德國的ICE擺到大陸或日本大概都會被笑吧!舊線比例過高
作者: Everforest (Yue)   2017-03-05 03:42:00
德國鐵路是網狀的 交通樞紐分散各地 做新線可是大工程先從舊線升級比較合乎成本
作者: Odakyu (青蛙騎士 瀬戸幸助)   2017-03-05 11:05:00
蓋LGV要放射性國家比較容易一些 除非像中國一樣瘋狂
作者: velaro (下路雙組合)   2017-03-05 11:49:00
的確日本法國西班牙都是放射網路,德國是分散的
作者: omkizo (陳武愛帶你笑掌)   2017-03-05 11:58:00
沒幾個國家能撐得起網狀高鐵吧? 目前中國也頂多是算多點放射(以北上廣為中心) 雖然八縱八橫做好後會變網狀但那財政問題也很令人擔憂呀
作者: kkStBvasut (奧匈帝國皇家鐵道)   2017-03-05 20:08:00
恭喜我奧地利Railjet的德國版即將誕生歐洲不蓋高速新線反而可以完整服務舊市區和中小城市高速新線為主的國家: 法國 西班牙 荷比 義大利法國是因為當時只有新幹線這個案例可學 西班牙是因為傳統鐵路是1676mm1668 把伊比利軌距跟印度軌距搞錯orz
作者: cutec (sasaki)   2017-03-05 20:57:00
其實除了新建LGV外,法國也有選擇將部份舊線提速到220,兩者同時並進。
作者: kkStBvasut (奧匈帝國皇家鐵道)   2017-03-05 21:24:00
都是"為主"啦 奧地利瑞士都各自有一小段高速新線了然後西班牙也是有可變軌距準高速列車
作者: cutec (sasaki)   2017-03-05 22:02:00
對了,Tours往波爾多的高速新線也會在今年完工加入營運。
作者: metalfinally   2017-03-06 00:57:00
歐洲客貨混雜鐵路線不少,碰到貨列在跑的路線也是要降速,而且機車頭除了客運列車、貨運也能用
作者: velaro (下路雙組合)   2017-03-06 01:42:00
Tours 到Bordeaux的高速路線已經通車了吧?總統致詞還出了點小插曲
作者: cutec (sasaki)   2017-03-06 02:55:00
已經通車了...XD, 請問致詞時發生了啥小插曲?
作者: kkStBvasut (奧匈帝國皇家鐵道)   2017-03-06 03:40:00
查了一下應該算是已經試營運還沒通車(?)但總而言之剪綵了
作者: atriple (請逐項修改)   2017-03-07 01:46:00
原來如此(筆記)。另外,舊線提速的方法是改用動力比較大的車或可傾斜過彎的車嗎?
作者: cutec (sasaki)   2017-03-07 16:03:00
簡單說大致有:1. 說路線基礎改善、2. 曲線優化、3. 道岔號數提升、4. 號誌系統更新、5、車輛系統

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