Re: [花邊] Draymond Green回應LBJ戒指文化的看法

作者: pujos (lks)   2025-06-21 16:18:05
這問題最好的例子
就勇士前隊友Kevin Durant啊
他那兩冠
被酸報腿、搭便車、格林公式閉環
能有多難聽就有多難聽
但是當一要排歷史排名時
硬是因為有那兩冠
基本就能排在10~15名
不會因為沒有戒指
被踢到後面25~40名去
跟飛天豬、馬龍、老史、Nash坐同桌
而這些沒有戒指的“偉大”球員
隨著時間過去,人數越來越多
還會慢慢被往後踢勒
偉大是形容詞沒辦法排序的
但戒指有一顆就是有一顆
有兩顆就是有兩顆
6>4...ok???
戒指重不重要
哪個球員心裡不清楚
都跟明鏡一樣好嗎...
※ 引述《kakala99 (Fernando Torres #9)》之銘言:
: Green and his podcast co-host Baron Davis discussed James' comments on the
: latest episode of "The Draymond Green Show with Baron Davis," where Davis
: initially said he "definitely" agrees with James.
: And while Green does as well, he shared a more thought-out response with a
: big-picture perspective.
: 在最新一集《The Draymond Green Show with Baron Davis》播客中,Green與共同主持
: 人Baron Davis討論了James的這番話,Davis先表示,他「絕對」認同James的看法。
: Green雖然也表示贊同,但他補充了一段更深層視角的觀點:
: "I think ring culture took a big turn and came into play in large part due to
: the success of the Golden State Warriors. What Bron was saying is that you
: get guys like Stephen A. [Smith], and to me it felt like Stephen A. is
: someone who talks a lot about rings, and you don't know what it takes to win
: a ring because you've never won a ring. You don't understand because you've
: never gone through it. And because you don't know how hard it is because
: you've never gone through it, then you start using it to lessen the greatness
: of some of the greats.
: 「我認為所謂的『戒指文化』之所以出現並成為主流,在很大程度上與金州勇士的成功有
: 關。LeBron想表達的是,你會看到像Stephen A. Smith這樣的媒體人整天把總冠軍戒指掛
: 在嘴邊,他們常以戒指來衡量球員價值,但他們根本不知道贏得一枚冠軍戒有多難,因為
: 他們從來沒有親身經歷過,正因為你不清楚這有多艱難,你就會開始用戒指來貶低某些偉
: 大球員的成就。」
: "Is having a ring important? Of course. Does it add to legacies? Does it
: stamp legacies? Absolutely. I'm not going to sit here and act like having a
: ring or rings doesn't matter. It does matter. But it doesn't make [Charles]
: Barkley less great than he was. It doesn't make Allen Iverson less great. I
: think when people use it, they use it to dim the greatness, dim the light on
: guys. And that's what I felt like Bron was getting at." To Green's point,
: both Barkley and Iverson are Naismith Basketball Hall of Famers, 11-time NBA
: All-Stars and one-time league MVPs.
: 「冠軍戒重要嗎?當然重要。它能為傳奇生涯加分嗎?能鞏固歷史地位嗎?毫無疑問絕對
: 能,我不會坐在這裡裝作戒指不重要的樣子,但這不代表Barkley就不夠偉大,也不代表
: Allen Iverson的偉大會因此減少。我覺得有些人用戒指去貶低那些未曾奪冠球星的成就
: ,而這正是我覺得LeBron想表達的重點。」
: In more recent times, players such as James Harden, Russell Westbrook and
作者: Barbarian123 (空白)   2025-06-21 17:46:00
姆斯整天4>6 是當5冠TD Kobe 不存在喔
作者: roger2623900 (whitecrow)   2025-06-21 18:04:00
KD沒去勇士 他的評價大概就跟哈登差不多 頂多高一點點而已 要知道哈登MVP share還比他高 只是沒冠而已姆斯比TD更全能 但TD的功能性很強
作者: Andrew199999   2025-06-21 18:30:00
一兩代人就忘記了?史上最強進攻機器這麼簡單就忘了?哈哈哈哈哈
作者: alittleghost (littleghost)   2025-06-21 18:31:00
歷史地位小AI >槍西
作者: RandyOrlando (蘭迪)   2025-06-21 18:37:00
KD兩個FMVP還是貨真價實啊
作者: siegfriedlin (齊格飛)   2025-06-21 20:42:00
作者: zzz753951753 (Ali)   2025-06-21 21:59:00
打20年只有四冠的在爭山羊就是笑話

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