[外絮] Horford on Delly

作者: kart (=\)   2015-05-25 14:56:34
http://goo.gl/zTPGaA
這篇原文爭議那麼多卻沒人想碰,
因為兩邊球員本來就都會各有立場和情緒說話,
可是看完慢動作各個角度重播,你無法說Delly是故意去壓腳
是絕對可以肯定的。
Atlanta Hawks center Al Horford was ejected from Game 3 of the
Eastern Conference finals after picking up a flagrant-2 foul on
Matthew Dellavedova near the end of the second quarter on Sunday.
The Hawks went on to lose 114-111 in overtime. It was a
controversial call, as the Cleveland Cavaliers guard fell into his
legs before Horford came down on him.
Al因為這個球被驅逐出場,Cavs也聽牌。
這個爭議球起因於Delly跌倒在Al Horford腳上而Horford肘擊了他。
Dellavedova has had similar incidents with Atlanta sharpshooter
Kyle Korver and Chicago Bulls big man Taj Gibson in the
postseason, so some thought it might have been intentional.
Regardless, Horford had to watch the remainder of the game with a
couple of the Hawks' trainers, trying to send good vibes. He said
it hurt to not be out there with his teammates.
Delly的另兩個爭議球是Taj Gibson的夾腳事件和G2的KK事件。
有些人認為那是惡意的。
"I did think he went at me," Horford said. "But I should've
handled it better, shouldn't have got caught up in that. It's
something that I'll definitely learn from.
Horford說「在當下我的確認為他是針對我來的,但是我當時也應該
處理得更好,不應該被情緒所左右。這是一件我會從中學習的事。」
Horford didn't want to call Dellavedova a dirty player and praised
his competitiveness, but added that "there's gotta be a line at
some point."
Horford不願意說Delly是個骯髒的球員,並且稱讚了他的拼勁。
但是也說了「拼勁這事兒總是要有各界線在」
"We're out there competing," he said. "But he's gotta learn, I
mean he's only been in this league for a couple of years or
whatever, but he's gotta learn that at the end of the day it's a
big brotherhood here. Guys look out for each other and, I don't
think that it was malicious, but he's gotta learn."
「我們都在場上競爭,但是他必須要學習,我的意思是他在聯盟只打了
兩年或是什麼的,但是他終究必須要去學習NBA是個大家庭。每個人都
要注意到對方,我不認為那是惡意的,但是他必須要去學習。」
Horford added that, in the heat of the moment, he told a referee,
"Listen, he went after my legs." He took responsibility for
retaliating, though, repeatedly calling it a very poor decision.
Horford說在比賽的激情中,他的確跟裁判說
「聽著,這傢伙是針對我的腿來的。」
但是他也替自己的行為扛下責任,不斷地說他自己的舉動很蠢。
"If it was on purpose or not, we don't know," Horford said. "Maybe
it wasn't on purpose. But, you know, with just his track record, I
just felt like it was."
「我們無法知道他是不是故意的,也許他不是。但是你知道,
他的歷史讓我當時覺得他就是針對我的腿來的。」
"I don't think when Al sees the play he's going to be mad about
it," Cleveland guard Iman Shumpert said. "[Dellavedova] respects
the game, Al respects the game, just happened."
香波說「我猜Al看完重播後他應該就不會生氣了,Delly和Al都是尊重
比賽的人,這種球正好發生了。」
All three officials were unanimous on the call, according to
NBA.com's Steve Aschburner. Referee Ken Mauer said that Horford
received the flagrant-2 for "contact above the shoulders, to the
shoulder and head area of Dellavedova," while Dellavedova received
his tech for making contact with Horford's knee area.
三個比賽裁判一致認為Horford的舉動完全符合NBA教科書上對二級惡犯
的定義,因此必須要驅逐出場
「多餘不必要的非籃球動作直擊對手肩膀以上的位置」
至於Delly的T是因為他的確有碰到Horford的膝蓋位置
(註:Delly的T已經被NBA澄清說是他當下碎嘴挑釁,而不是因為碰到膝蓋)
Atlanta head coach Mike Budenholzer said he watched the play, and
he wasn't sure whether or not it warranted an ejection because it
was hard to tell whether Horford hit Dellavedova's shoulder or
head first. If he hit his shoulder first, Budenholzer said there
should have been no ejection.
Bud則說他認為Horford沒有打到Delly的頭,他認為只打到肩膀再撞到頭,
那應該不用驅逐。
"I really didn't see too much, but then I looked at the
replay," Hawks swingman DeMarre Carroll said. "I just seen
Dellavedova diving. You know, he did it to Kyle. He's one of our
starters and he gotta have surgery, he's out 4-6 months. And he
did it to Al. I think Al said, ‘Enough of this.' And he did what
he did.
開羅說「我當下真的沒看到太多,然後我看了重播,
我只看到Delly俯衝。你知道的,他也俯衝去撞KK。然後KK現在要開刀ㄟ!
然後他現在又去這樣對Al,我想Al只是想說「真夠了!」所以就肘擊下去了。」
(註:對KK那球可說Delly有俯衝動作,這球.....???)
"I think [Dellavedova] is just competitive, man," Carroll
continued. "Sometimes when you compete so hard, you can take it
overboard. So there's gotta be a fine line between competing and
being crazy. You know, Al just did what he thought was necessary
to protect our team and make a stand. And he got threw out."
開羅接下來說「我認為Delly只是打的有競爭性,但是有時候你競爭過頭
你就可能造成傷害。競爭和打到起笑應該是有界線在的。你知道的,
Al只是想要保護我們的球隊並且站出來。然後她被丟出場。」
Carroll added that, while going after a loose ball is OK, "when
you dive at people's feet, nothing but bad things are going to
happen."
開羅接下來說,去搶loose ball當然可以,「但是如果你往別人腳下衝,
總是會有壞事發生的。」
The incident might have decided Atlanta's season, but none of the
players wanted to use it as an excuse. The Hawks were able to
force overtime without Horford, Korver and Thabo Sefolosha, but
they just couldn't quite come away with the victory.
Unfortunately, this was a must-win, and now they're facing
elimination.
這件事情可能讓老鷹的球季結束。沒有球隊可以從0-3逆轉過。
"The referees, they went out there and looked at it for about 10
minutes until they got it right," Atlanta guard Kent Bazemore
said. "We can't really argue with that. But when you look at
[Dellavedova's] track record and his history, it's a lot of things
that can be said. But at the end of the day, it doesn't really
matter. We lost Al and we still had a game to play."
Kent說
「裁判們大概看了十分鐘吧,直到他們認為判決正確為止。所以我們
無法對這個二級惡犯說啥。但是你必須要看看Delly的歷史。這可是有很多
可以著墨的空間。當然比賽結束後這些都不重要了,我們少了Al而我們
當時還有比賽要打。」
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補充剛剛看到LBJ和Delly的賽後記者會,關於這個play的部分
(確定大意正確,不過等有人有transcript了可以幫忙補充原文)
記者問說開羅說往別人腳邊衝(diving to others feet)是很糟糕的舉動
LBJ本來想替Delly回答,但是Delly堅持自己回答:
「在G2的時候那球,球在我的肚子這邊,我只想保護球並且趕快傳出去,
今天這球,我的左手臂一直被Al跩著向外拖,我試圖掙脫但是沒辦法,
然後我就跌倒了,我並沒有去往別人腳邊衝」
LBJ補充
「人們想把Delly安上一個骯髒的罪名,而我認為這是不正確也不對的,
Delly不是這樣的人,不只因為他是我的隊友我這樣說,他就是打球很認真
用盡全力。有時候你們就放大這些play,G2我在空中的時候被人家用兩手
推下來,但是我們不會去放大這一個play然後想說甚麼故事出來,但是你
知道的,笑」
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心得:
Delly整個突然紅起來....不過平心而論季後賽這三個爭議球,
兩個球他算是被扁的一邊 = =,至於KK那球連犯規都算不上,
卻因為這樣被老鷹球員說的惡名昭彰(輸球邊,可理解)
有些人說Delly是小貝型的,但是說實在話,以這三球來看可能也還不到吧?
夾Taj的腳我是不知道是什麼原因,可能他被一直推一直推很不爽的詭異反擊?
但是Taj把腳拔開以後又往前踹他不是自找的F2嗎?= =
KK那球讓KK報銷可能當下沒人會料到吧,
因為看起來也是個滿常見的play,甚至常常看到自己人壓到自己人的時候
最重要的是聯盟也沒有因為這球補吹犯規或是T什麼鬼的,
(註:別忘了當時很多人護航的Olynyk之後可是被認證的F2)
表示這球是正常的一個籃球範疇的play
今天這球就更明顯了,Delly是被Al拉到跌倒的,跌倒的時候他碰到了Al
的膝蓋,但是他馬上也用右手撐直了身體,如果骯髒,不是應該順勢
往後倒力壓也是可以裝個無辜?反正是被你Al拉倒的嘛?
結果他剛坐直就被Al來個肘擊重壓擊倒,而且重播看起來其實很危險,
因為他左手當下完全是一個不自然的姿勢被Al整個身體壓,他反應快
趕快翻身否則搞不好騎士又多一個脫臼的~
所以Al這球被判F2的確是有原因的。
另外老鷹今天也很多針對Delly的小動作,Delly本來在這系列造成了老鷹
一些小麻煩,他黏TT型的防守給了老鷹後衛很大的麻煩。
上一場老鷹後對被Delly守時命中率是3/18,其他人守時是8/12。
所以老鷹肯定討厭Delly,Delly能這麼黏也是每天練習要防守KI練出來的不意外
但是因為他黏就說他髒,還是因為這三個play說他髒,
我是認為要有更多證據才能說他是個「有歷史」的髒球員。
作者: submission22 (甩尾單輪車)   2015-05-25 15:01:00
太公又出現了 好想吐
作者: hbkhhhdx2006 (比格踢)   2015-05-25 15:18:00
LBJ被怎樣犯規酸酸都嘛無視請海啤酒來翻啊呵呵靠杯是海熊
作者: cavitylapper (類聚)   2015-05-25 15:20:00
髒死了 到底是打球還是打人啊
作者: a31416701614   2015-05-25 15:30:00
這些play在以前根本小case 誰會去注意啊一下酸現代籃球太娘難看 一下又在那天祐來天祐去有需要打自己臉?
作者: horizontally (壞白)   2015-05-25 17:01:00
有道理
作者: sasakihiroto (白狗)   2015-05-25 17:05:00
他是沒多乾淨 但這個play他被拉被絆被拐 到底怎麼變成他髒了

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