Fw: [討論] 本壘攻防的規則 - 卡本壘板?

作者: ZMTL (夜風/瀟湘 VR板已經開板!)   2018-04-07 13:00:16
※ [本文轉錄自 NY-Yankees 看板 #1Qo48xts ]
作者: rt3648yth (Archipelago群島) 看板: NY-Yankees
標題: [討論] Didi衝本壘out
時間: Sat Apr 7 11:59:49 2018
剛剛Didi的play相信大家都看過了,然後裁判的判決讓多數版友(包含我)很不爽,所以呢,
小弟我剛剛去看了一下棒球規則7-13,先上原文內容:
OFFICIAL BASEBALL RULE 7.13 Collisions at home plate
A runner attempting to score may not deviate from his direct pathway to the
plate in order to initiate contact with the catcher (or other player covering
home plate). If, in the judgment of the umpire, a runner attempting to score
initiates contact with the catcher (or other player covering home plate) in
such a manner, the umpire shall declare the runner out (even if the player
covering home plate loses possession of the ball). In such circumstances, the
umpire shall call the ball dead, and all other baserunners shall return to
the last base touched at the time of the collision.
Rule 7.13 comment: The failure by the runner to make an effort to touch the
plate, the runner's lowering of the shoulder, or the runner's pushing through
with his hands, elbows or arms, would support a determination that the runner
deviated from the pathway in order to initiate contact with the catcher in
violation of Rule 7.13. If the runner slides into the plate in an appropriate
manner, he shall not be adjudged to have violated Rule 7.13. A slide shall be
deemed appropriate, in the case of a feet first slide, if the runner's
buttocks and legs should hit the ground before contact with the catcher. In
the case of a head first slide, a runner shall be deemed to have slid
appropriately if his body should hit the ground before contact with the
catcher.
Unless the catcher is in possession of the ball, the catcher cannot block the
pathway of the runner as he is attempting to score. If, in the judgment of
the umpire, the catcher without possession of the ball blocks the pathway of
the runner, the umpire shall call or signal the runner safe. Notwithstanding
the above, it shall not be considered a violation of this Rule 7.13 if the
catcher blocks the pathway of the runner in order to field a throw, and the
umpire determines that the catcher could not have fielded the ball without
blocking the pathway of the runner and that contact with the runner was
unavoidable.
可以注意到最後一段,裡面只說到Catcher,但是沒有說到補位的防守者,所以剛剛Givens
雖然有妨礙跑壘的嫌疑,但裁判無法用此條款來判他妨礙因此最後維持原判。
其他版友有甚麼想法呢? 歡迎在下面推文討論
參考資料:https://goo.gl/TdhNDf
對了,補個道歉啟事,wen大大,剛剛在live文下面我太衝動了,導致我發表一些激烈噓
文,
冷靜過後在此跟你說聲抱歉orz。
作者: sonesnsdsosi (FOREVERSONE)   2017-04-07 12:03:00
作者: ZMTL (夜風/瀟湘 VR板已經開板!)   2017-04-07 13:00:00
如果真的是因為補位的可以卡本壘板那自然應該判出局啦,只是這規則應該就有討論的空間了吧...XD
作者: ForeverChop (ForeverChop)   2018-04-07 13:08:00
真要玩擋擋樂 那一堆美式足球員又有飯吃了
作者: TokyoHard (東京難)   2018-04-07 13:08:00
笑你投手不敢卡啦
作者: alanlee0502 (cowboy111)   2018-04-07 13:11:00
catcher應該是只接球者吧
作者: acd51874 (Iwakuma)   2018-04-07 13:16:00
那寫fielder就好了為什麼要寫catcher,是吧XD
作者: tony900735 (大頭)   2018-04-07 13:24:00
https://i.imgur.com/R3TdNpQ.jpg大聯盟的規則6.01(i)有附註or other player coveringhome plate所以投手也試用Posey Rule適用啊,漏看6.01(i)之1有寫其他球員,但同條之2沒寫所以規則漏寫
作者: isaac2104 (秋風蕭瑟)   2018-04-07 13:36:00
球沒傳出來卡本壘有意義嗎 這play 就是球傳出來 投手跑來補位 在接球路逕上順勢卡位 確實有故意卡 但在傳球路徑上 又非補手 當然符合 另依上面說的 其他人故意卡本壘 球沒傳來完全就妨礙跑壘了
作者: bkm1 (殷仔 加油!!!)   2018-04-07 13:40:00
其實這球說卡也很怪 投手也是滑過來的 沒有早就佔好的狀況我覺得Posey Rule解釋空間很大 裁判的第一直覺很關鍵...
作者: ZMTL (夜風/瀟湘 VR板已經開板!)   2018-04-07 13:45:00
說包圍是氣話啦,不過說真的跑壘者除非撞下去不然就算球還在空中也沒可能突破補位者去碰本壘板吧XD 如果用傳接球路徑來說以後這種case就往打擊區方向傳就好
作者: bearlex (オレの歌を聴け!)   2018-04-07 13:48:00
這狀況是合法卡位,那跑者是否就可合法撞下去畢竟沒留空間給他摸本壘版啊
作者: ZMTL (夜風/瀟湘 VR板已經開板!)   2018-04-07 13:51:00
看起來目前是打者不能撞捕手(或其他防守員)、捕手也不能擋本壘板嗯XD*跑者
作者: NCTUsucks   2018-04-07 14:11:00
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作者: leegogo (李狗狗)   2018-04-08 00:56:00
裁判賽後說投手是為了接球 不算非法阻擋

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