[閒聊] ATLC Reckful事件

作者: kuonet (鍋貼)   2015-07-06 15:16:37
版上沒看到相關討論,我直接貼一篇社論上來
這件事情蠻嚴重的,在國外引起了許多討論,有些字眼/行為在國外是很敏感的
簡單來說就是Reckful因為講了一個Rape,當場被Amaz換下主播台
Amaz的說法是: 他講了很多攻擊性的字眼
Reddit串: http://tinyurl.com/pnkxcgy
暴雪社群經理的回應: https://twitter.com/CM_Zeriyah/status/616680848574779392
That is not something we are ok with, and we are discussing it with the
organizers.
"這不是我們能接受的事情,我們正在跟主辦單位討論如何處置"
下面翻譯我就直翻了,意思大概到就好
原文: http://tinyurl.com/nrt2glb
Editorial: When professionalism takes a day off
社論:當專業休假的時候
There are some things you don’t say. There are occasions which require a
person to have a certain demeanor, a code of conduct if you’d like. You do
not make obituary jokes in a nursing home. You do not say in almost casual
tone during an official press conference that your country has “tortured
some folks,” although God knows this has produced more than enough jokes
towards the Obama cabinet.
很多事情你會選擇不說。在某些場合需要保持風度或是一定的行為守則。你不會在
養老院講關於死亡的笑話,你不會在記者會上隨口說出你的國家"有在刑求某些人"
(註:這邊指歐巴馬失言事件),雖然沒人知道這會對歐巴馬內閣造成多少麻煩。
And you do not say “rape” in the biggest Hearthstone tournament of the
year, in front of tens of thousands of people watching.
你也不會在今年最大的爐石聯賽上,數萬個觀眾面前,說出"Rape"(強暴)這個字
If you missed last night’s broadcast of Archon’s Team League Championship
(ATLC for short), you’re in for a story with a pinch of drama. Paired with
hosting and casting veteran Dan “Frodan” Chou was popular streamer,
entertainer and loudmouth Byron “Reckful” Bernstein. Known for his colorful
vocabulary and no-two-shits-given attitude, Reckful boasts a large following,
one of the biggest in Hearthstone’s scene in fact. Seeing him appear in the
ATLC, the $250,000 league organized by Team Archon, almost came that kind of
confusion which you can kind of understand. With so much money on the line,
viewership numbers are and should be the primary concern of the organizers,
and securing the services of someone of Reckful’s stock is a smart move. On
paper.
如果你錯過了昨晚ATLC聯賽的轉撥,那你該來聽聽這個抓馬。跟老牌主播Frodan搭配的是
大嘴巴的人氣實況主/藝人Reckful。事實上,Reckful以各式各樣的詞彙和"管他去死"的
態度吸引了大批的追隨人數,讓他成為了最大的爐石實況主之一。從這邊你不難理解他
的出現會在總獎金$250,000美金的ATLC聯賽上造成一定程度的混亂。在如此高額獎金的
聯賽上,收視人數必然是主辦單位最關心的議題,也因此,確保Reckful的播報品質是個
明智之舉,至少在字面上是。
It didn’t take long for things to go awry. The tandem between Reckful and
Frodan couldn’t have been more off. While sometimes differences in behavior
and style can result in a colorful commentary experience, this was not the
case. Where Frodan tried to salvage the broadcast and offer insight on the
players, the teams, and the games, Reckful couldn’t have been bothered less.
但事情馬上就失控了。Reckful和Fordan之間的配合差到不能再差了。雖然有時候兩個
行為或是風格不同的人配合會激發出更絢爛的火花,但這次完全不是這樣。當Fordan
想要把主題拉回爐石本身,把焦點放在選手、戰隊、還有比賽上,Reckful還是滔滔不絕
的自己講自己的。
While general critique could and will be shot Reckful’s way, it was one word
in particular which rightfully angered the community. No matter the context,
“a Swipe would rape him,” is just an offensive and insensitive thing to say
from this official of a podium. And while that was what lighted the fuse,
Reckful’s follow-up behavior did not aid his cause. He continued to behave
inappropriately, showing completel disinterest and lack of knowledge and
research done towards the tournament he was supposed to cast.
當大家準備,或是將要開始批評Reckful的時候,一個字直接激怒了所有人。先不管前因
後果,從一個播報口中說出"A Swipe would rape him"(一個揮擊會幹爆他)這句話就是
一件充滿攻擊性和不理性的事情。當這條導火線被點燃之後,Reckful接下來做的事情
仍然讓他繼續被扣分 - 他繼續展現出對爐石毫無興趣的態度,同時他也缺乏作為一個
播報需要知道的知識以及事前研究。
Those who follow Hearthstone for a longer time would remember that this is in
fact not Reckful’s first time acting like that in a tournament environment.
His casting of Lord of the Arena 2 alongside fellow streamer Octavian “
Kripparrian” Morosan was also a subject to negative feedback, following
derogative and condescending attitude towards the female participants, namely
DeerNadia and Rumei "Hafu" Wang. The case later brought up and discussed on
popular Hearthstone podcasts like The Angry Chicken, where a very valid
comment was made: You can talk however you want in your circle of friends or
personal stream, but you never do that in an official tournament, regardless
of how “casual” and “laid back” the atmosphere can be. Ultimately, Tempo
Storm, the team which Reckful belongs to, had to issue an official apology.
對於那些一直有在追爐石新聞的人來說,這不是Reckful第一次在聯賽中做這種事情了。
他跟Kripp播報Lord of the Arena 2(競技場之王2)的時候一樣是獲得了負面評價,
因為他在播報中顯露出了對女性玩家Hafu和Deernadia歧視的態度。這件事情在一些
人氣播客平台像是The Angry Chicken上面被廣泛討論,最後有一個非常重要的評論
是 "你在你的朋友圈或是自己的實況上要講什麼隨便你,但是你絕對不能在一個官方
聯賽上講不該講的話,即便這個聯賽標榜著「輕鬆」或是「悠閒」。在最後,Reckful
的戰隊,Tempo Storm,為這件事情發表了道歉聲明。
註:道歉聲明 http://tinyurl.com/pzsg56v
While the “rape” comment was obviously made without malicious intent and is
very much a part of the gamer’s slang, it could easily be seen as
controversial. On social media, fellow journalists went on to say this is
promoting of “rape culture” – a concept coined in the 70s to describe the
normalized nature of the act and trivialization of the word – and one could
agree to some extent. And though I personally wouldn't, throwing around words
like “rape” without so much as a second of thought is concerning. This
shouldn’t be read as me being convinced that Reckful consciously promotes
and endorses rape. It’s simply the textbook definition of inappropriate
behavior and it's something that will grab the attention in a way you'd
rather not.
即使"Rape"說出來的時候沒有惡意,甚至可能只是個口頭禪,他仍然會造成很多爭議。
在社交媒體上,記者們會說你這樣做會助長"強暴文化",一個70年代開始圍繞著這個
行為的觀念。就我個人而言我不會因為你講了這個字就把你歸類到助長強暴文化的
分類中,他只是定義上一個很不洽當的行為,同時他會讓你因為講出他而惹上很多麻煩。
There are a number of fallacies that can – and surely will – be mentioned
in regards to this incident. “It’s all for the entertainment, it’s what
brings the numbers,” is the first and the most wrong one, which is a
terrible excuse. When the only way to excite your viewership is condoning
crass language, then there are bigger problems to your concept than your
casting line-up. Call me crazy, but I believe a tournament of that size on
one of Twitch’s most popular Hearthstone channels can generate a following
without employing a bigot. Professionalism should never be sacrificed to the
detriment of production quality or good taste.
關於這件事情,有些人可能,或是一定會說,"這都是為了娛樂,這也就是為什麼會有
那麼人想看"。這個謬論將是第一個,也是錯最大的藉口。如果今天你認為加入這些不
堪入目的詞彙才能提昇你的收視率,那你的觀念可能比你的播報陣容問題更大。你可能
認為我瘋了,但我相信今天在Twitch上一個如此大的爐石聯賽並不需要僱用一個那麼
偏激的人來吸引大批觀眾。專業永遠不該屈於降低品質。
註: 最後那句話有點不知道怎麼翻,大概的意思是說真正的專業不是靠降低你播報的
品質來拉攏觀眾。
“If you don’t like it, don’t watch it,” others will say and they’d be
missing the point, too. We’re not talking about why buy vanilla ice cream if
you don’t fancy the flavor. This is not a matter of personal taste. If
anything, the flow of logic is the other way around. With viewership numbers
being the index against which success in all broadcasting is measured, “don’
t watch” is what the horn of the media hearse sounds like.
"不爽不要看" 其他人可能會這樣說,但這是錯的。我們不是在討論你要不要買香草
冰淇淋,這不是個人喜好的問題。要說的話,這整件事情是另一個邏輯。當觀看人數
是決定一個實況成功與否的因素的時候,"不要看"就是一個實況的墳場。
註: 最後一句話我真的看不懂,這邊請翻譯強者幫忙更正
“That’s part of who Reckful is, give him a break,” is the least valid
excuse of all. As was mentioned earlier in the article, a change of demeanor
is necessary when publicly representing an organization. This is not the
Reckful Team League. It’s Archon’s, and for the few hours that you’re on
stream, you’re the voice and face of Archon as much as Amaz, or Firebat, or
Orange are. Those who are not convinced such a change can happen, should
revisit the appearance of Sebastian “Forsen” Fors at DreamHack Bucharest,
who underwent a total makeover, leaving his streaming personality and home
and delivering a polished, professional and educating product which still
carried the essence of what makes Forsen enjoyable to watch.
"Reckful就是這樣的人,饒了他吧" 是一個最智障的藉口。就像文章前面所說的,
當你代表了一個聯賽,態度的改變是必須的。這不是Reckful聯賽,這是Archon聯賽
,當你在實況上的時候,你的臉和聲音就代表了Archon,跟Amaz、Firebat、Orange
一樣。那些認為Reckful改不掉習慣的人,請去看看Forsen在DreamHack Bucharest
播報的VOD,他把他實況上的許多東西都丟棄了,改頭換面,為觀眾呈現了一個洗練、
專業、富有教育意義的播報,但同時仍然保存了許多他有趣的本質。
If you believe saying “rape” was the least of Reckful’s offenses during
last night’s ATLC, that too much attention is being paid to it and that
there are other offenses that need mentioning, you’re spot on. A single
mention of the word could’ve gone almost unnoticed if not for the repeatedly
displayed disinterest in doing the job he was hired for. Before he would
ultimately get replaced by Amaz, Reckful gave a crash course on the “DONT’s
” of professional casting. It’s not OK to refer to a team you do not know
as “these Asians” when they’re the strongest team of the east. Or to refer
to a player you do not know as “that other guy” when he’s one of
Hearthstone’s veterans, competing in tournaments since the earliest days. Or
to mispronounce a player's name. Just like it's absolutely unacceptable to
not pay attention to the games and to openly admit that preparing for a
casting gig is not important.
如果你認為"Rape"可能只是Reckful在ATLC播報中犯下的唯一錯誤,那你可能太注意
這個地方而沒發現其他值得注意的部份。如果他沒有一而再再而三的心不在焉,那
講錯一個字也不會引起太多的注意。在Reckful被Amaz撤換前,Reckful犯下了許多
專業播報的大忌。因為你不認識他們就把東方最強的隊伍叫做"這些亞洲人",這一點
都不OK。因為你不認識這個玩家就把他叫做"另外一個人"(偏偏他是爐石的沙場老手),
這一點都不OK。唸錯選手的名字、不專注在比賽上,甚至承認沒有為轉撥做任何準備
都是絕對不能被接受的。
註: http://www.twitch.tv/reckful/v/6857265?t=4m21s
Reckful被撤換之後的第一次實況,他有說到他真的不知道Team Celestial,所以他想問
另外一個主播(也就是Frodan)關於這隻隊伍的細節
Towards the end of this editorial, the other party who bears the fault for
Reckful’s appearance ought to also be mentioned – the organizers
themselves. It’s understandably difficult to find popular casters who are
available, willing to cast and/or are not playing in the ATLC itself.
However, employing a personality comes with understanding his or her quirks
and peculiarities and being aware they can and most likely will appear on
stream. I’m sure Amaz and Co. were aware of what they were getting into; I
do not believe for a second they were utterly shocked and surprised of what
happened during the broadcast. If this was a bet, based on a hope that
Reckful would not be his true self, then it was a lousy bet and one you
shouldn’t make while operating a tournament of this magnitude.
在這篇社論的最後,需要提到一個得承擔找錯人(Reckful)這個錯誤的團體 - 主辦單位。
我們可以理解要找到一個不打ATLC的人氣主播是多難的事情,然而,找一個人代表要
了解他可能會在實況上講什麼話以及表現出怎樣的特色。我相信Amaz和他的團隊知道
他們在做什麼,我不認為當他們知道出包之後會特別驚訝或是驚嚇。如果這是一個賭注
,賭Reckful在ATLC上不會跟他平常一樣,那這是一個很糟糕的賭注,而且你不應該
在如此大規模的聯賽上賭下去。
Following the controversy, Reckful was let go of the ATLC casting desk and
replaced by Amaz. Speaking to industry insiders, the organizers promised this
was Reckful’s first and last appearance as a caster in the tournament. And
while applaudable, this fallout is almost ironically in contrast with ATLC’s
vision of what is offensive and what isn’t. If saying “rape” is not OK,
how can a team slogan reading “Bringing the cancer” on a logo designed by
ATLC’s organizers themselves be justified by the “context”? As I wrote on
Twitter myself, I'm not the one to be offended even though I have close
friends who've experienced rape and others who have fought cancer, but I'm
not all people and the fact that saying or writing these things can be
considered normal is mind-boggling. "Context" is not an universal safety vest
which makes things more acceptible. Quite the opposite - it's a dangerous
enabler of misconduct. The fact that we're watching a video game should not
make a difference: A professional broadcast production must adhere to the
written and unwritten standards of the industry and the modern society.
爭議發生之後,Reckful被踢下主播台並且由Amaz暫代。根據內線消息指出,主辦單位
決定這將是Reckful第一次以及最後一次在聯賽上播報。
文章的後半段,簡單來說就是
https://twitter.com/ArchonAmazHS/status/615203531960659968
ForsenBoys的標語是 "Bringing the Cancer"
作者有朋友被強暴,也有朋友正在對抗Cancer(癌症),他認為今天Rape不妥當結果弄
了個Cancer簡直是自打嘴巴,希望業界有個一定的標準什麼可用什麼不可用,不然
對於無知的人很傷。
Speaking of which, going on stream to say one of your casters was replaced
due to being too offensive is not the way to do damage control either. Iconic
esports host and presenter Paul “ReDeYe” Chaloner has “don’t point to
mistakes in your production while it is ongoing” as one of the core rules of
shoutcasting and broadcasting, and it’s absolutely vital. Honestly, the
Pinnacle 4 qualifiers should’ve been enough of a lesson.
這段大概就是講說,當天做得很難看,至少要等當天播報結束再撤換
在Pinnacle 4已經做得很難看了,這次又來一次
註: Pinnacle 4的狀況是海選的選手打輸了結果被邀請進複賽
最後的處理方式是Pinnacle 4 沒有Blizzcon積分
In the end, I’m not saying a person like Reckful should never get any
casting jobs, ever. There’s a place and time for everything. But acting in
an unprofessional and insensitive manner when the occasion demands the
opposite is not only unacceptable: It’s unforgivable, tasteless and
appalling.
最後就是拍拍reckful說你還有機會,但是你這次這樣做實在是天理不容

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