※ 引述《CallMeDavid (軍神上杉謙信)》之銘言:
: 回去看了一次影片
: 只能說 這篇風向帶得很弱
: 黑人問題你只說了前半部
: 後半部是
: "我們可以誰都不投
: 所以你必須說服我們讓我們願意出來投你"
: 拜登首先直接直接回應
: 年輕世代的黑人 不管男女 他們的選票可以做出改變
: 再來回應 我怎麼樣可以贏得你的選票
: 說了一堆blah blah blah blah他為黑人做的事
: 這邊不多說 有興趣可以點開影片
: 重點來了
: 可能回答得太長 主持人直接打斷拜登
: 問了年輕人
: "你有得到你需要的答案嗎"
: 黑人年輕人 點點頭 說有
: 人家提問人都說滿意了 你在那邊幫他喊燒
: 拜登最後還跟黑人補充 如果你想知道更多
: 結束之後留在現場 我再跟你分享
: 黑人點頭回答 沒問題
去他的...送上原影片,下面有逐字稿:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvv5upecGOE
怕我翻的爛所以直接附原文,翻譯的部分盡量不帶Bias,
按的地方是我的註解(含bias),不喜可跳過
然後聽拜登講話好痛苦...
CallMeDavid
DustToDust
donkilu
MarioBro
peter080808
clifflee
mecheer
啊上一篇帶風向不是很爽? 敢不敢來打我臉?
等你哦~
逐字稿開始:
Moderator:"From Cedric Humphrey he's a student from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania,
progressive democrat."
主持人:"提問者是Cedric Humphrey,賓州Harrisburg大學學生,進步派民主黨人。
Biden:"Don't jump, Cedric. You look like you're way up there."
Cedric:"Thank you George, and good evening former vice-president Biden.
Many people believe that the true swing demographic will be the black voters
under the age of 30, not because they'll be voting for Trump, but because
they won't vote at all. I myself have this exact same conflict.
So my question for you that is, 'besides you ain't black, what do you have to
say to young voters who see voting for you as furthure participation in a
system that continually fails to protect them?'"
"問題: 除了你不是黑人外,你有什麼想對年輕(黑人)選民說?
他們認為投給你等於繼續參與一個持續失敗無法捍衛他們的體系。"
Biden:"Well, I say, first of all my buddy John Lewis said it's a sacred
oppertunity right to vote you can make a difference. If young black women and
men vote you can determine the outcome of this election. Not a joke, you can
do that.
"如果年輕黑人男女去投票,你們可以左右這場選舉結果。不開玩笑,你們可以。"
And the next question is am I worthy your vote? Can I earn your vote?
And the answer is, there's two things I think that I care, and I've
demonstrated I care about my whole career.
One is in addition to dealing with a criminal justice system to make it
fair and make it more decent, we have to be able to put black Americans to...
gain wealth, to generate wealth.
"下個問題,我值不值得你們的票?
答案是我覺得我很注重、在我職涯中也顯露出我很注重兩件事-
其一是除了把犯罪矯治系統處理的更公平更像樣,我們必須能夠把黑人去賺錢、去生錢"
(按:為什麼講Put不講Let? 有種把黑人當資產還是物件的感覺...
Let black people to be able to gain wealth, 讓黑人能賺錢,不是更通順? Orz)
And so you look at what it entails, and entails everything from early
education, that's why I'm supporting making sure that we
entitle one schools, as you know schools with the least tax base, to be able
to support their schools. I increase the funding for them form 15 to uh...
45 billion dollars that allows every teacher in that school to make up to
60,000 bucks, and the problem now is they're leaving the schools,
they're not there. We're short about a million and a half teachers,
a million and a quater teachers.
"而當你看這需要什麼,需要一切從早期教育...那也是為什麼我支持確保我們批准一種
學校,如你所知稅基很低的學校,能夠支持他們的學校。我把資金從150億提高到450億,
並讓那個學校的每個老師都能賺到至少60,000塊,然後現在的問題是他們正在離開學校,
他們不在那裡。我們有150萬、125萬的師資短缺。"
(按:需要一切從早期教育...只講了教育,啊其他的咧?
資金部分不熟,但是125萬個師資短缺會不會太扯?這不是錢的問題是師資培育的問題吧?)
"Number two, every three and four and five-year-old will go to school. School,
not daycare, school with all the great universities including the one you've
gone to, go to or went to. In fact, talks about in the last eight years what's
happened? What's happened when you let them go to school? They make up rapidly
that whatever...whatever um... fail... whatever shortcoming they had in terms
of their education prior to that. They've have not heard as many words etc etc.
What happens is that the studies show that 58% will increase by 58% their
chance to going all through 12 years of school and going through successfully,
also provide for the ability to bring in social workers and school
psychologist."
"第二,每個三歲四歲五歲小孩都要上學。去學校,不是托兒所,去包含大學的校園上課,
包含你以前讀過的、正在就讀的、曾經就讀過的。事實上,說到過去八年來發生什麼事?
你讓他們上學會發生什麼事? 他們進步神速,無論上學前的教育有什麼...什麼...失敗...
什麼短處。例如沒有聽過一樣多單字之類。研究指出58%會增加58%的人能度過12年國教,
成功的度過,並證明有能力引入社工與學校心理師。"
(按:這段翻得很痛苦,我不知是英文能力若還是拜登的句子結構問題大...
58%的黑人能從12年國教畢業,挺低的;
然後後面似乎是想說讓社工與心理師進入校園能提高黑人平安度過學校歲月的機會?
最後...叫三歲小孩上學,還要大學參一咖...拜登你喜咧工三小!?)
We have 1 school psychologist in America now for every 1507 kids, it should
have been 1 to 500. Not just in schools that are poor, but in all schools.
Because we learned that, for exemple, drug abuse dosen't cause mental illness,
mental illness causes drug abuse. The failure to get hold of people and deal
with their anxieties.
美國現在心理師與學生比是1:1507,這比率應該要是1:500。這不只是窮學校,是所有
學校的問題。因為我們學到那個,舉例來說,藥物濫用不是心理疾病的成因,是心理疾
病導致藥物濫用。無法掌握人們並解決他們的焦慮就是失敗。
In addition to that I provide 70 billion dollars for
HBCUs for them to have the wherewithal to do what other universities can do,
because they have... they don't have the kind of fundational support they need.
And so that would allow them for example like we did in our administration,
the president allowed me to go down and we awarded a cyber security laboratory
ability to compete for a cyber security federal government spends billions
dollars a year. And universities because they are the best kept secret or most
of the major inventions come out of. And so, that school now will be able to
produce young black women and men, who are going to go into a field of the
future that's burgeoning. Cyber securities! That's gonna help in a great deal.
除此之外,我提供700億美元給傳統黑人大學,讓他們有必要的資金去做其他大學能做的
事,因為他們有...沒有所需的財政支援。這能讓他們,舉例來說,在我們執政時總統讓
我南下,我們獎勵了一間大學的資安實驗室,他們有達到聯邦年花幾億美元資安實驗室的
實力。而大學,因為他們是最會守住秘密與達成最多重大發明的地方。因此,那間學校
現在能培育年輕黑人男女,進入一向蓬勃發展的領域。資訊安全!那能幫到大忙。
In addition of that, if you are a young man about to graduate or you graduated
from school, and you wanna own your first home and you're... well, it's awful
hard to get the money and depending on the background where...what...wh...
Excuse me. Your economic background is, to get it down the payment. So we're
going to garantee first term home buyers a 15,000 dollars down payment.
For first term home buyers!
除此之外,如果你是個即將畢業或者已經畢業的年輕人,你想要擁有第一個家...
你會非常難以湊到足夠的錢,取決於背景那個...那...不好意思,你的經濟背景,
去付頭期款。所以我們保證首次購房的人都能獲得15,000美元的頭期款,
只有初次購房的人有!
(按:終於講到教育以外的東西了...
為什麼這段聽起來像政策買票+廣告?
然後這個購屋政策是只限黑人還是其他族裔也有?)
In addition that all the studies now show and I've been arguing this for a
long time is young black entrepreneur are just as successful as white
entrepreneur or anyone else give them a shot! But you can't get the money!
Where do you go to get the startup money? So president Obama and I did, we
had a program, we took a billion five hundred million dollars, and we
invested them in all the SBAs in all around the country, in the small SBA-
small business associations. And that generated 30 billion dollars come
off the sidelines. Because if you have a guarantee of two hundred thousand
dollars for your new starup enterprise, young entrepreneur, you're going to
be able to attract, if it's government money as a guarantee, you'll be able
to attract another 100,000 dollars.It generate 30 billion. Well I'm changing
that program and get this done, without much of a trouble I believe in the
cogress, from uh...from 15...uh 1.5 million dollars to 30 billion dollars,
to 30 billion dollars. That'll take 300 billion dollars from sideline and
grow.
"除此之外,所有研究都指出、我多年來也主張,年輕的黑人企業家可以跟白人企業家
一樣成功,只要有人給他們機會! 但你弄不到錢!你要去哪裡弄創業基金?所以歐巴馬
總統與我搞了一個方案,我們投資15億資金給遍布全國的SBA們,投進小型SBA-中小
企業協會。這個方案產出了300億的額外產值。因為只要確保二十萬元的創業基金,
年輕企業家,你就可以招來,若是有政府資金當後盾,你就可以招來額外十萬元。
這達成了300億。現在我要改革這個方案,相信國會也會順利支持,從15...1.5百萬
追加到300億,300億美元。這將會創造3兆美元的產值並繼續成長。
(按:不確定Sidelines怎麼翻...
然後到底是15億還是150萬?現在要一口氣投入300億?
最後,是否先叫BLM不要騷擾黑人社區,讓他們能穩定做生意?)
Because you know, for example, if you in fact and I were at the same
age and we split our difference and we were the same age, and we went to the
same builder to buy us each a same home. But my home was in a white neighbor-
hood on one side of the highway and yours is in a black neighborhood, same
exact home! Your home will start off being valued 29% less than my home, yet
your insurance for that home would be higher. You'll be taxed more for it.
We've got to end this. That's got me involve in the politics in the first
place, the thing called redlining. We can change so much, that we can do so
much to change the circumstances, to get the people a real opportunity...
"因為你知道,舉例來說,如果你跟我一樣年齡、撇除一切不同且同齡,跟一樣的建商
買一模一樣的房子。但我的房子會在高速公路一端的白人社區、你的房子會在黑人社區
一模一樣的房子! 你的房子的初始價值會比我的少29%、但你的保費會比我的還高、你會
被課比較重的稅!我們必須結束這些! 這就是促使我參政的原因,所謂的差別待遇。
我們可以改變好多,我們可以改變結局,給予人們真正的機會...(被打斷)_
Moderator:"Cedric, did you hear what you need to hear?"
Cedric:"I think so..."
(按:禮貌又不失尷尬地微笑...)
Moderator:"OK."
Biden:" There's a lot more if you want to... if you're going to hang around
afterwards, I'll tell you more."
"我還有好多要講,如果你想聽的話,如果你之後想待久一點我可以告訴你更多。"
Cedric:"Okay, let's..."
"痾...好,那我們...(被打斷)"
Biden:"But I really mean it! It is a key! Look! This is the way every other...
How do most, like my dad, he lost job up in Scranton. And it took him three
year to be able to move down to Delaware to Claymont steel town, and send us
home to our grandpa to live with him. We finally got back we live in apartm-
ents become six and eight housing much later, it wasn't just normal apartmants.
And, but it took him five years to be able to buy a home! Well, we bought a
three bedroom home with four kids and a grandpa living with us.
But it accumulate wealth! You build up wealth! That's how middle-class folks
make it: they build up wealth. And he was about to borrow a little agaist that
to be able to help us get to school, those kind of things.
"我是認真的!這就是關鍵!看啊! 這就是所有其他...像我爸的多數人如何,他在Scranton
失去工作、花了三年的時間才搬去德拉瓦州的Claymont鋼都,把我們送去阿公家跟他住。
我們終於團圓時住在一間公寓,之後變成6-8間housing,不只是一般的公寓。
然後我們花了五年的時間才有能力負擔一間房子,我們買了棟三間房間的房子,住進四個
小孩與一位阿公一起同住。但這累積財富!你建立起財富! 這就是中產階級怎麼做的,
他們建立財富。然後我爸差不多借了點錢讓我們能上學,類似那種事情。
(按:你說自己的生平故事和Cedric的問題有關嗎?
Cedric已經聽得好累了說...)
It's about accumulating wealth, and it's very, you're behind the an eightball.
A vass majority of people of color are behind an eightball. And it's the same
way what's going on now with all this money that's been voted.
What's happened, you go into a bank if you're a black businessman, and I and
the president fired the only inspector general to see or oversee all this help
coming from the congress. And what happened? You go in and they say do you
have an account here? No. Do you have a credit cards with us? No.
Do you have borrow from us before? No. We bill these suckers out! They are not
liable with any of the money. But they still won't rant it, they still won't
lent it to you. We gotta change that! It's about accumulating wealth!
"一切都是累積財富,然後真的很...你們狀況不好,大多數有色人們的情況都不妙。
這就是一直以來這麼發生的,這麼多錢被這樣分配。
會發生什麼事?如果你是個黑人企業家,進了一間營行。而我、而總統把唯一的檢查總長給
Fire掉,來看看或監督所有來自國會的協助。
(jennya大認為是指川普fire掉金融方面的檢查總長,
"然後因為川普總統開除了唯一一個負責監督國會收了哪些資金援助的監察官")
然後發生什麼事?你走進去,他們問你:
'你有帳戶嗎? 沒有' '你有在我們這辦卡嗎? 沒有' '你有跟我們借貸嗎? 沒有',
我們給了這些混蛋錢! 這些錢他們不用負責! 但他們依舊不願意借出來、依舊不肯貸給
你們! 我們必許做出改變! 這全部都是為了"累積財富"!
(再按:感謝jenna大的指教,然後睡了一覺終於比較能搞懂拜登這段想說啥了...
jennya版:"我們國會從這些廢物身上拿了錢!這些錢的負債不是算在他們頭上,但他們還
是不想借錢給你。我們必須改變這點!關鍵就在於「財富累積」!")
(再按:原來behind eightball, money vote都是片語...Orz,
感謝jennya大大的指教:https://wtools.io/paste-code/b2qi )
心得:
我活著打完這篇了,為了對照前前後後看了好幾遍,參照youtube字幕...
搞了好幾個小時...
然後Cedric好可憐啊! 我靠影片慢慢看、反芻、還有暫停休息,
他直接被拜登畫大餅疲勞轟炸了四分鐘,連主持人都看不下去打圓場,
本來覺得結束了如釋重負,結果拜登繼續接著講...
然後我覺得拜登整個搞錯點...
Cedric的問題重點有兩個:
1.You ain't black 真的有傷到年輕黑人族群的支持度
2.年輕黑人族群覺得拜登這個老政客只代表一個失敗的舊體制
Cedric想要的答案很簡單,彌補You ain't black,然後說服年輕人投拜登,
結果拜登拼命提他當年跟歐巴馬總統怎樣怎樣、然後要加碼歐氏政策、
最後提起當年勇,完全搞錯重點...