[新聞] 比特幣的高手續費暴露了它的極限

作者: Epimenides (No.13)   2017-11-15 03:08:29
新聞來源連結:
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-11-14/bitcoin-s-high-transaction-fees-show-its-limits
縮網址
https://goo.gl/y8UPrC
新聞本文:
隨手加減跳著翻一下
Bitcoin's High Transaction Fees Show Its Limits
比特幣的高手續費暴露了它的極限
The original cryptocurrency may never be a widespread payment instrument.
第一個加密貨幣可能永遠不會成為廣泛使用的支付工具
By Leonid Bershidsky
November 14, 2017, 8:41 PM GMT+8
More hassle than it's worth? Photographer: Dan Kitwood
The Bitcoin rate spike, still alive despite bitter divisions in the community
that supports the cryptocurrency, has laid bare the biggest problem with
Bitcoin: Compared with fiat currencies, it's painfully inconvenient and
expensive to use as a means of payment.
儘管比特幣社群分裂,它的價格還是上漲
最大的問題:和法幣相比,它作為支付的工具
使用上有夠痛苦,有夠不方便,成本有夠貴
Bitcoin is set up to reward users for verifying transactions. Miners who
package transactions into "blocks" receive two kinds of rewards: The
additional Bitcoin they produce by using their hardware to solve mathematical
problems (an income stream that will eventually cease since 21 million
bitcoins are the maximum that can be mined) and the transaction fees paid by
users to get their payments into blocks.
簡介一下礦工的角色,這個大家都知道就不翻
The Bitcoin system is designed around scarcity and its traditionalists insist
on keeping the block size small (rebels who did away with that tenet founded
an offshoot, Bitcoin Cash, earlier this year). Their reasoning is that only
people with more computing power can live in a big-block world and going down
that path would make Bitcoin less democratic. But that horse has bolted:
Mining is already largely the province of people who invest significant money
in equipment and the huge amount of energy required to run it. As Bitcoin's
exchange rate rose rapidly and more people wanted to get in on the boom,
getting into blocks became difficult, and miners prioritize transactions on
which users are willing to pay a higher fee. It works a bit like Uber's surge
pricing, except the user sets the fee based on how long she's prepared to
wait for the transaction to go through
作者: wahaha99 (此方不可長)   2017-11-15 04:24:00
BTC就是靠這三個字金貴, 不然他的技術實在是最落後的這是合理的, 因為他是第一個成為主流的加密貨幣,而這曝露了加密貨幣的價值本質 -- 信仰只要大家都認同, 那麼狗屎也能變成黃金,那這樣一來, 知名度遠比什麼零知識證明、環狀簽名、拜占庭容錯、Anti-ASIC、智慧合約....都重要這是行銷的力量, 也是人類共有的盲點
作者: somanyee (Soman)   2017-11-15 06:50:00
btc之父中本聰的形象,是其他幣無法模仿或超越的
作者: IamSkyBlue (天空藍)   2017-11-15 06:54:00
推一樓,現在fb上顯現出的台灣文化也是進場只想知道怎麼賺"比特幣",然後就一大堆直銷,對於用甚麼技術完全不想去了解,而且就算最近塞車好像也沒使用其他幣的趨勢,但想一想這不就只是他們進場的唯一目的嗎QAQ
作者: dans (Go for the eye)   2017-11-15 07:03:00
只有我大擴容派支持的比特幣未來可廣泛支付使用
作者: tcn1john (momo)   2017-11-15 08:27:00
推翻譯
作者: st943617 (電子花車)   2017-11-15 09:00:00
比特幣遇到的問題 其他幣遲早也會遇到? 那我大ETH也可以7000鎂嗎?
作者: JoyRex (JoyRex)   2017-11-15 09:11:00
看看LTC和BTC這2種半斤八兩的幣價差多大就知道都是靠信仰
作者: darkdixen (darkdixen)   2017-11-15 09:46:00
好險中本聰消失了 不然早被core打成支持擴容的既得利益者
作者: kuma660224 (kuma660224)   2017-11-15 11:19:00
中本聰的消失也幫BTC傳奇化加深信仰因為不存在所以不會犯錯。信仰需要先知的神秘感與傳說來加持。先知離開了,但留下BTC神蹟與白皮書
作者: darkdixen (darkdixen)   2017-11-15 11:26:00
kuma大說的很有禪意 有點感嘆
作者: kuma660224 (kuma660224)   2017-11-15 11:38:00
像DAO或ETH小金童就只是凡人。會為自身利益而戰,終究無法變成傳奇。
作者: ptt80357 (Z8)   2017-11-15 11:46:00
就跟畫家死了,畫暴漲的道理大致相同,因為已經變成獨一無二
作者: JoyRex (JoyRex)   2017-11-15 12:01:00
現在有交易後10秒內就可確認入帳的虛擬幣嗎?
作者: DarkerDuck (達克鴨)   2017-11-15 12:01:00
再Core領導下,BTC技術只能是最落後的啊乙太幣閒著沒事幹就在硬分叉升級交易卡住的情形也變少但在Core詛咒下,BTC永遠不得硬分叉升級除非你用Tangle那種非區塊鏈技術的不然10秒產生一個區塊的區塊鍊無法穩定存在最短就大約30秒了,不可能更短,更短會有大量孤立塊早在2014年早期的比特幣開發者就已經有完整的擴容路線圖 " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">
甚至連現在的Core開發者本來都是支持上百MB的區塊大小https://goo.gl/GTHdYn但在Blockstream設立後,一切都停滯了,為什麼呢??自己想想看吧
作者: Ash1taka (紡繳、檠弓弩)   2017-11-15 19:29:00
第111~114行:應該不是10億筆/6.3兆筆交易是總額10億美元/6.3兆美元的交易量DD貼的今昔對照真讓人感慨...如果有一天IOTA foundation被BS那樣的公司把持我應該也會因為發展路線違反初衷超恨的
作者: rmp4rmp4bear (天然呆)   2017-11-16 02:28:00
看這路線圖如過往雲煙就難受想哭
作者: DarkerDuck (達克鴨)   2017-11-16 02:34:00
回到手續費這個問題,其實高手續費有個極端嚴重的問題就是情形再嚴重下去的話,大部分地址內的比特幣根本無法移動,因為手續費超過地址內的餘額 XDDD而這個問題用閃電網路也是完全無法解決的像這種荒謬的案例近來已經越來越多了尤其是用比特幣收取捐款的機構,他們的比特幣全部都被 "凍住了" 感恩扣而,讚嘆扣而希望閃電網路能夠把這些"dust" transaction "解決掉"

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