Re: [新聞] A380改!

作者: QuentinHu (囧興)   2017-06-19 01:48:42
好奇爬了一下文,這台A380 Plus應該是"好幾個計畫的綜合體"
不是只有改wintip而已,這在空巴的新聞稿裡面有說明
當然為什麼可以做到-13%座位成本,-4%油耗
主要是跟main deck全經濟艙 跟3-5-3座椅配置有關
連PY艙都建議放主甲板然後改成3-3-3配置
https://goo.gl/Np9D87
我個人覺得空巴新聞稿裡面
把增加的座位數,打散到各細小的改善項目裡面
讓人覺得好像增加出來的座位主因不是3-5-3配置
但想也知道,這些增加的座位數是基於3-5-3 Y艙跟3-3-3 PY艙推算出來的
如果靠動些小地方就能增加那麼多
那只有一個可能就是原本的設計是爛到爆
反正現在A380就是賣得爛到爆
空巴也不認為投入更多預算改Neo會讓A380起死回生
只能拚拚看靠改艙間配置看能不能挽救回一點什麼
至少把現有未出貨的訂單改成A380 Plus去降低每座成本
看能不能讓航空公司少抱怨一點...
1.New Forward Stairs –
20 more passengers (Business, Premium Economy & Economy Classes)
The NFS involves relocation of the forward stair from Door 1 to Door 2, and
combining the entrance of the NFS to the upper deck (going up), with the
adjacent staircase to the lower-deck crew-rest (going down). The NFS would
make room for up to 20 additional passengers.
修改了前艙的樓梯設計,可以提供最大+20的座位
Combined Crew-Rest Compartment (CCRC)
– three more passengers (Premium Economy)
For the CCRC, the existing flight-crew-rest (behind the cockpit in the
mezzanine area at Door 1) is moved down and combined with the cabin crew rest
on the lower deck. This innovation frees space for three extra
Premium-Economy passengers at the front of the main-deck.
把駕駛艙後方的組員休息區取消,跟下甲板的組員休息區合併
空間有沒有變小沒有講,但這樣做會不變小也很怪啦
11-abreast 3-5-3 economy layout on the main-deck
– 23 more passengers (Economy Class)
Thanks to an innovative seating concept developed by Airbus and its seating
partners, Airbus is able to maintain an 18inch seat-width while offering
airlines an 11-abreast Economy Class on the main-deck in a ‘3-5-3’
configuration. This enables an increase in capacity of 23 seats – adding
significantly to the A380’s revenue-generating potential.
奴隸船再升級...這就不用多解釋了
基本上我覺得這是不可能被採用的配置
A380是可以執飛長程航線的機型
換了3-5-3 就變得不適合飛長程航線
那航空公司是要怎麼定位這台飛機?
New Aft-Galley Stair Module (AGSM)
– 14 more passengers + two food trolleys
The AGSM involves the redesign of the rear-stair from a spiral configuration
to a straight/square one. On the main-deck, this allows valuable storage
volume for galley modules. Overall the AGSM provides space for 14 more
revenue passengers plus two extra food trolleys.
後方的螺旋樓梯被改成一般樓梯
可以多坐14個人跟多放兩台餐車
Upper-deck sidewall stowage removal
– 10 more passengers (Business Class)
The option to remove the sidewall stowages on the upper-deck increases the
wall-to-wall cabin width at foot-rest height – which makes space for up to
10 more business class seats / beds when an angled herring-bone arrangement
is used.
上層甲板靠牆側的儲存空間被拿掉
可以多放十個商務艙座位
Nine-abreast Premium Economy on the main deck –
11 more passengers (Premium Economy)
PY艙改放到主甲板然後改3-3-3配置
作者: littleyow (有話直說)   2017-06-19 02:03:00
353......
作者: yodi ( )   2017-06-19 02:06:00
影片 https://goo.gl/mS5iCF 前樓梯改成那樣,哪間會買 = =把頭等跟商務放上層,叫VIP走那窄到不行的走道,不被罵死才怪
作者: ciswww (Farewell)   2017-06-19 02:29:00
樓梯超窄 是假設機場都有空橋直接連接upper deck?
作者: MDRZ7 (MDR-Z7)   2017-06-19 03:33:00
讚 奴隸船再升級3-5-3中間那個位置應該會給票價最低的人坐XDD
作者: prussian (prussian)   2017-06-19 03:54:00
改配置其實每次航空展都拿出來重提一次,一直沒人買單XD
作者: ATR72 (文人相輕自古皆然)   2017-06-19 08:04:00
真是天才,乾脆把商務艙改成跟組員休息區一樣上下舖,瞬間座位數X2好了
作者: leopika (李奧納多皮卡皮丘)   2017-06-19 09:34:00
都加錢買py了還3-3-3也太慘
作者: tinystudio (過期的緣份...)   2017-06-19 10:25:00
改這樣不好嗎? C艙2-3-2,PY艙3-3-3,Y艙3-5-3
作者: chewie (北極熊)   2017-06-19 10:43:00
說真的都是苟延殘喘啦 真的有興趣投入的業者應該很少...
作者: fastech (被解體的試驗車)   2017-06-19 10:57:00
EK獲利都大減了,沒取消A380就要偷笑了最多也只是轉換部分A380成A380plus
作者: xvited945 (sk0k0)   2017-06-19 11:17:00
C艙2-3-2也太鳥
作者: fastech (被解體的試驗車)   2017-06-19 11:34:00
EK.QR.TK777商務艙都是2-3-2,斷面更大的A380 2-3-2算好了
作者: soredia (幸福新生活)   2017-06-19 13:52:00
QR 777是2-3-2?應該是2-2-2才對吧...
作者: fastech (被解體的試驗車)   2017-06-19 14:13:00
QR是多打打錯了,感謝指正
作者: SEPHI (morph..morph....)   2017-06-19 15:35:00
我正在排隊進場 等等看看有沒機會看這台
作者: ohsI (阿奇)   2017-06-19 15:49:00
看得到LBG嗎
作者: fastech (被解體的試驗車)   2017-06-19 16:49:00
這架F-WWDD一直保存在LBG機場
作者: SEPHI (morph..morph....)   2017-06-19 21:20:00
作者: Piin (過去 現在與未來)   2017-06-19 22:06:00
飛的這架不是改翼端帆的那架
作者: FAFAYEN (發發顏)   2017-06-20 05:07:00
乾脆改雙艙等C:333 Y:353 推給Ryanair做洲際航線同學專業
作者: QuentinHu (囧興)   2017-06-20 16:03:00
lol 發發都坐Ryanair 嗎

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