Re: [請益] 只會寫程式的話該怎麼解決素材問題?

作者: ZMTL (夜風/瀟湘 VR板已經開板!)   2023-01-06 11:03:42
※ 引述《ddavid (謊言接線生)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《googled (15357)》之銘言:
: : 想請問個很魯的問題
: : 小弟本身只會寫程式,一直有個遊戲設計的夢想給他圓起來
: : 從以前玩RPG Maker到Unity,一直到最近的Godot
: : 在摸索時總會想到素材的問題不知該怎麼解決
: : 本身有找過網路上付費或免費的素材
: : 但都會離自己的需求差那麼一些
: : 可能A作者的素材包裡面有30%符合自己需求
: : B作者的素材也有40%符合自己的要的內容
: : 可是A跟B的素材風格卻不一樣
: : 兩款素材放在同一款遊戲感覺很怪
: : 同樣的音樂跟音效的部分也有同樣的問題
: : 不知道各位大大都是怎麼解決這類問題的?
: : 是到最後乾脆自學繪畫,還是會直接請一個御用畫師量身訂造?
: : 或者是不管風格問題,網路上有什麼素材符合就買什麼資源?
: : 謝謝
: 關於素材運用,同人或獨立遊戲中有大量運用案例。不過近年我看過最傑出的例
: 2. 其實生在目前這個年代非常幸運,AI 繪圖已經有遊戲拿來實用化了,花點時間
: 學習詠唱一下,就可以產生一定水準的圖片。當然如果要畫同一個人物的多張圖可能
: 就比較不容易,若有此類要求,就要更有耐心地大量產生 AI 圖後仔細篩選更相近的
: 人物圖(提升詠唱技術也會有點幫助但還是要靠運氣)。
(略)
聊聊這部份,雖然我沒正經的遊戲製作經驗,但也參與過一些課堂專案,
後來還幫某個朋友當貓手用Unity趕過遊戲畢制,同時還幫他整理素材,
那時候他的選擇是用Unity Store用一部份免費的、去Booth買一些素材、立繪自己畫。
但如果是現在,真的可以大部分靠AI,我自己現在是AI繪圖板板主,
剛剛偶然點進這個板看到這個議題,剛好可以拿一些現有的例子來講。
先隨手找些例子給大家,我直接貼未放大版的四格圖,都可以再出大圖。
以下都來自AI繪圖服務Midjourney的官方畫廊(關鍵字:UI,icon,video,game,rpg...),
部份是這幾天的熱門部份是我的書籤:
ICON:
「Ui icons, buttons and assets plus a screen concept for a game in the style of
legends of runeterra on a white background, 4K」
https://cdn.midjourney.com/9adbba8b-540c-4b98-bd87-69d4ce9329d5/grid_0.png
「ui elements, frames, buttons, rpg game」
https://cdn.midjourney.com/fd9732cd-d472-48c5-b426-e754d0afe9c1/grid_0.png
「pickaxe, rocks rare gems icon for a rpg game - dark fantasy, rpg,
atmospheric, detailed, intricate, brown and gray, delicate light, circle
shape with rounded corners, pieces of cloth, stone background」
https://cdn.midjourney.com/d13d5f4d-32b5-45fb-b881-9c9aa27fb461/grid_0.png
「Ui icons, buttons and assets plus a screen concept for a game in the style of
legends of runeterra on a white background, 4K」
https://cdn.midjourney.com/9adbba8b-540c-4b98-bd87-69d4ce9329d5/grid_0.png
UI:
「pokemon themed UI UX mobile interface statistics charts infographics sharp
lines vector no text」
https://cdn.midjourney.com/d13ab871-d818-4ef6-b59d-401975377e88/grid_0.png
「Beautiful hq dashboard, design, valleys / mountains, face of norse god /
crows, graphs images and stats, ux/ui」
https://cdn.midjourney.com/f7eec853-c6c6-4032-93ce-2ee0a09f70f5/grid_0.png
「UI for an app that tracks your daily tasks like a fantasy video game skills」
https://cdn.midjourney.com/077b756f-557e-47d1-a469-ab06c91ea868/grid_0.png
「role-playing character sheet, ui/ux」
https://cdn.midjourney.com/1aaba7fb-1d1d-4e08-a2fe-f06314e0dd82/grid_0.png
「interface for a role-playing game set in a fantasy world. The interface
should include elements such as a character stats display, a inventory menu,
and a map of the game world. The style should be inspired by medieval fantasy
art, with a color palette of rich blues, purples, and golds」
https://cdn.midjourney.com/024e5e72-cd4d-4bd4-a6f4-9fd4b3a581ea/grid_0.png
道具素材:
「Sprite sheet with game visuals, game assets, 3D, cinematic lighting,
designed, pc game, steampunk, gray background, intricate detail, 8k,」
https://cdn.midjourney.com/aea2642c-857f-4b48-bdcf-1aecd7f35471/grid_0.png
「Sprite sheet with game visuals, game assets, 3D, cinematic lighting,
designed, pc game, steampunk floor tiles, gray background, intricate detail,
8k,」
https://cdn.midjourney.com/d315fa5e-b7aa-4bdc-bc36-3328b5314a74/grid_0.png
角色:
「cute elf warrior, full body shot, bow and arrows, forest, fantasy, cinematic,
tarot card, anime, kawaii, HD, highly detailed, detailed hands」
https://cdn.midjourney.com/4520cb44-1e51-4c8a-8355-423a60bc038a/grid_0.png
「collection of islamic avatars for a video game,full body ,Disney style」
https://cdn.midjourney.com/ab70a57c-fce6-41d1-9150-8c4df2146899/grid_0.png
「In the Dungeons & Dragons fantasy role-playing game, a female gnome artificer
is a character class that specializes in creating magic items and other
magical devices. Artificers are highly skilled craftsmen and engineers who
use their knowledge of magic and technology to create powerful and often
complex magical items. They are able to imbue their creations with magical
energy, and may also have the ability to repair and modify existing magic
items. Artificers are often depicted as being highly intelligent and
resourceful, with a deep understanding of the principles of magic and
technology. They may also have abilities that allow them to imbue their own
bodies with magical energy, or to enhance the abilities of their allies,
cinematic effects, octane render」
https://cdn.midjourney.com/072c8936-17a6-464b-89b8-5f69796e0ca2/grid_0.png
「cute child boy cyborg meka mecha with wings, winged avatar, feet to head
picture whole body, futuristic character using modern clothes, dynamic
standing pose, using semi half mecha eyewear, modern fashion, semi half mecha
accessories, the character has a semi mecha gun, wepaon, knives, a circle
shape in the background, sword or katana in his backside, main focal point is
the character, colorful, high contrast, good lighting, good shadow, thick
bold textures, thick bold outlines, eyes looking at the front, full body,
detailed, by valorant game, cartoonic style」
https://cdn.midjourney.com/d18d4e6b-92dd-4d29-a875-53133b5b9f34/grid_0.png
「Deadpool as a long white hair vampiric chibi female, concept design sheet,
white background, warhammer 40k watercolor」
https://cdn.midjourney.com/8165d433-0d81-495c-a2dd-acfa78766b1c/grid_0.png
角色插畫:
「evil queen sitting on her thrown in her ancient palace, looking down at
viewer, stone gargoyles, tapestries, braziers, elaborate background, magical
particles of light, smoke wisps, pointing at viewer, microdetails, vibrant
colors, bold linework, digital illustration, concept art, fantasy theme, pop
art influence, eye-catching composition, strong contrasting colors, dynamic
poses, dynamic perspective, playful, energetic」
https://cdn.midjourney.com/669822b7-13f2-4849-8a29-c02584aadef2/grid_0.png
「Female Dark Magician, Shadow Magic, Dramatic, Dark Magic Fire, concept art,
Fantasy, Frank Frazetta, Aaron Griffin, Lucas Graciano, Magali Villeneuve,
Pino Deani」
https://cdn.midjourney.com/9a190ff5-44da-4229-a938-8f475e24eb5e/grid_0.png
「full body portrait of Hecate Greek Goddess of Witchcraft, Magic, Crossroads,
beautiful greek woman with half black, half white hair, wearing all black,
two black dog, holding torch, detailed, dramatic lighting, by J.C. Leyendecker

https://cdn.midjourney.com/99f7e657-df5c-47ff-9692-b30db096a5e2/grid_0.png
場景插畫:
「a futuristic and devastated street with destroyed skyscrapers and destroyed
cars by night, no light, cyberpunk style, very realistic, very detailed」
https://cdn.midjourney.com/924febb1-7ac1-4e0a-9dc4-7e054338e835/grid_0.png
「Japanese Garden, pond, water lillies, orchids, lotus flowers, sand, rocks,
boulder, lush shrubs, hyperdetailed, Erin Hanson/Donato Giancola/Nicolas de
Stael, cinematic lighting, long shadows, saturated contrast」
https://cdn.midjourney.com/8992bd6c-5080-46a6-8893-dd0b550a6453/grid_0.png
「a shot of the Secret Sacred Tree, hidden within a cavern, guarded by powerful
Arcana wielders, by Andrew Kurniawan, pexels contest winner, fantasy theme,
high fantasy time period, intricate details, glowing aura, dark and
mysterious atmosphere, ancient and sacred, hidden and protected, powerful
magic emanating from the tree, ethereal light」
https://cdn.midjourney.com/4701dc06-df9d-4d94-a93c-e3a7c32cdaf7/grid_0.png
場景:
「8 bit office interior」
https://cdn.midjourney.com/4f56508c-c836-4dd0-9018-9ad56039b97e/grid_0.png
「An isometric map of the Golden Oasis, a popular tavern & inn located in the
heart of Al-Rashid, is depicted in this digital art piece. The detailed map
showcases the various rooms and features of the establishment, including the
common room, bar, stage for entertainment, and guest rooms. The Golden Oasis
is depicted in a fantasy setting, likely inspired by the tabletop
role-playing game Dungeons & Dragons, adding to its allure and intrigue. The
intricacies of the map make it a visually interesting image, inviting the
viewer to explore and discover all that the Golden Oasis has to offer.」
https://cdn.midjourney.com/4a37c8cd-125c-4c6c-97c3-8791630c5ae4/grid_0.png
「abandoned room with secrets, flat style, illustration, limited colour
palette, overhead view as in role-playing games.」
https://cdn.midjourney.com/6c2fe5ec-8386-4cad-8fcd-4bdeb3882327/grid_0.png
其他素材:
「isometric beehive village, game design asset, environment, hand drawn, don't
starve together style, on white background」
https://cdn.midjourney.com/e34ffd96-6e35-4215-88c9-f56a3a72358c/grid_0.png
地圖應該也可以,但當前找不到範例,前幾天我做的
「map design, fantasy world map of video games, D&D Style, Pangaea, Historical
fantasy, parchment scroll, 8k」
https://images.plurk.com/6ZrX8BizwoFrlYo45ODv7v.png
之前存的角色設計稿(我忘記咒語了)
https://cdn.midjourney.com/36ca1d7b-7f0a-499d-a856-693ef7dadfa3/grid_0.png
請養成每天逛畫廊隨手按書籤的好習慣。

至於想要知道怎麼樣風格統一,可以參考人家賣的穩定召喚咒語:
(我自己是買了幾組後就大概抓到訣竅可以自己施法了)
Fantasy Landscapes
https://promptbase.com/prompt/fantasy-landscapes-2
Fantasy Gem Game Assets
https://promptbase.com/prompt/fantasy-gem-game-assets
Isometric Floating Cities
https://promptbase.com/prompt/isometric-floating-cities

之前參加AIGC年會,跟本板這個主題比較相關的部份:
https://www.businessyee.com/article/933-AI-Generated-Content-Event
學習模式與工作流程因 AI 產生變革
在政大教授數位內容圖表的李怡志分享自己如何幫助學生利用 AI 學習設計,雖然學生學
習圖表就像學習書法一樣要經過「臨摹」的鍛鍊(或說 Copy),與其在 Behance、
Pinterest 上瀏覽案例,不如利用 AI 臨摹來學習效果更好。
例如在 Midjourney 輸入 inforgraphic 加上圖表主題關鍵字,「一小時就能生成相當一
本書厚度的範例。經由認識本體,了解結構,最後組合出自己的作品。AI 可以幫助學生
掌握結構,更快達成理想的成果。」
雷亞遊戲執行長游名揚則從遊戲產業的角度討論,AI 會如何改變遊戲開發的流程。例如
遊戲產品的構成包括人物、道具、icon,以及遊戲廣告、登入頁面的製作等,透過與 AI
協作,將使開發速度提升百倍以上。
例如可以讓 ChatGPT 生成角色的招式(例如巫女的招數),或是提供角色的特徵,讓它
生成可用 AI 繪圖的 prompt/咒語,人只要發想以及熟練如何跟 AI 溝通即可,而新的
工作如「AI 溝通師」因此而生。
游名揚指出,有 AI 的協助,工作流程將產生變革,以往製作遊戲角色通常是決定人設,
繪製草稿,最後完稿。現在可以決定人設後直接使用 AI 完稿,再來調整人物設定。「重
新洗牌的時間即將到來,沒有跟上 AI 導入的公司將被淘汰。」
補充雷亞的文字應用部分:
「這個角色的背景是OOO 職業XXX 請根據此幫角色設計10個招式名稱並翻譯成日韓英文」

也歡迎來AI_Art板我們聊聊你想要什麼、我們可以怎麼做:)
作者: coolrobin (泳圈)   2023-01-06 13:01:00
居然有看板,感謝分享
作者: ZMTL (夜風/瀟湘 VR板已經開板!)   2023-01-06 18:20:00
https://www.havefunbarjp.com/post100 可以看一下這例子
作者: aegis123321 (PE)   2023-01-06 19:56:00
好酷
作者: iLeyaSin365 (伊雷雅鑫)   2023-01-06 20:27:00
所以都是AI畫的?
作者: ZMTL (夜風/瀟湘 VR板已經開板!)   2023-01-06 21:17:00
我貼的都是,連結裡的應該也都是Midjourney咒語下去(就是我「」裡面的內容)會出一張四格圖,喜歡可以選一格放大或延伸變化,也可以選擇再轉一張四格https://leonardo.ai/#learn-more AI_Art板友分享的,以遊戲素材為主的AI繪圖生成平台,事前登錄中
作者: milk830122 (SuperX)   2023-01-07 13:18:00
很有用但是開頭難的應該是使用咒語這部分XD
作者: testPtt (測試)   2023-01-07 13:47:00
AI不知道能不能做3D骨架模
作者: ZMTL (夜風/瀟湘 VR板已經開板!)   2023-01-07 14:38:00
Midjourney說他們有在朝3D模型生成努力,但骨架...XD咒語就歡迎來AI板討論了,上面也有些範例能參考
作者: wangm4a1 (水兵)   2023-01-08 23:56:00
推 實用
作者: googled (15357)   2023-01-09 10:49:00
推,感謝分享
作者: nicetw20xx (哇愛台灣)   2023-01-10 00:07:00
推 好強但是想知道授授權的話會怎麼認定尤其是商用的 感覺很難認定
作者: Lhmstu (lhmstu)   2023-01-10 02:05:00
推推感謝分享
作者: ctrlbreak   2023-01-10 15:57:00
發現AI也開始在訓練建模了 真替人類美術未來擔心呀XD
作者: ddavid (謊言接線生)   2023-01-10 17:52:00
推,Midjourney 很適合這方面運用
作者: e23731208   2023-01-11 13:54:00
作者: maximx (Nothing)   2023-01-16 15:10:00
感謝分享
作者: w1230319 (天帝劍頓戰幻舞)   2023-01-18 10:15:00
好厲害==
作者: purplvampire (阿修雷)   2023-01-20 20:29:00
太神了!
作者: artpoet (靈魂之舞)   2023-02-08 16:16:00
推,感謝
作者: nicetw20xx (哇愛台灣)   2023-02-11 15:31:00
前陣子比較忙...感覺真的是大躍進、再次感謝大大分享

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